I thought I was clear in my message when I wrote:

"Being a Drools developer..."

   But thanks Peter, anyway.

   Edson

2011/1/1 Peter Lin <wool...@gmail.com>:
> edson is a member of drools team for those who don't know.
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> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 6:01 PM, dc tech <dctech1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thank's Edson. Will check it out.
>> Drools seems to have come a long compared to when I last looked at it -
>> given that you have a foot in both camps, any wisdom and guidance would much
>> appreciated. My bias is towards Jess, perhaps since I got introduced to
>> rules engines with the excellent Jess book but is it worth looking at
>> Drools?  I like the interactive 'protype'ability with Jess using the shell
>> (still on 6.1). Does Drools have similar intractivity? We are developing
>> using j
>> jRuby (RoR) or Java.
>> Thanks!
>> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Edson Tirelli <ed.tire...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   May I suggest you take a look at Tohu?
>>>
>>> http://community.jboss.org/wiki/Tohu
>>>
>>>   It is a small framework to do, it seems, exactly what you
>>> described. It is built on top of Drools, but even if you prefer to
>>> write your own framework on top of Jess, it can probably give you
>>> ideas for your own design. Need to say, though, that I never used it
>>> myself, so not sure how good/bad it is, but the video demo is nice.
>>>
>>> > Lets not forget, even the Drools reference area (and JBoss Rules /
>>> > Drools Developer Book) recommends you read: "Jess in Action: Java 
>>> > Rule-based
>>> > Systems"
>>>
>>>   It is an excellent book for people that want to learn about
>>> Rule-based Systems, so why not recommend it? :) Being a Drools
>>> developer, I can tell you that we always had a good relationship with
>>> the Jess community, and we have much more to gain by cooperating than
>>> competing. That is not to detract from one engine or the other, it is
>>> just the open source way of promoting innovation and education and
>>> building upwards from the shoulders of the giants that came first...
>>> :)
>>>
>>>   Cheers and Happy New Year!
>>>
>>>   Edson
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/12/31 dc tech <dctech1...@gmail.com>:
>>> >>> Perhaps a little, but not greatly. ....
>>> > Am happy to hear. Jess was my first introduction to rules engines 4-5
>>> > years
>>> > back but did not use it for a production system. Now we are looking to
>>> > build
>>> > a 'guided navigation' type of app using Jess where the rules determine
>>> > what
>>> > steps does a user need to do. I am really excited to be able to use a
>>> > rules
>>> > engine for that type of application; I am sure many of you have built
>>> > similar things. Will keep you posted on questions/findings/lessons.
>>> > Not having done real development for many years, I really enjoyed using
>>> > the
>>> > Jess shell (still v6, from the book) and actually build small prototypes
>>> > with rules.
>>> > Agree on the Drools making rules more accessible.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Socrates Frangis
>>> > <soc.fran...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Agree with Donald, were on holiday.
>>> >>
>>> >> "Any impact from things like jBoss rules or other engines?"
>>> >> -Perhaps a little, but not greatly. I will applaud Red Hat for
>>> >> exposing more and more people to rule engines through open source
>>> >> however.
>>> >>
>>> >> With that said, I think the many users of Jess stick with it due to
>>> >> it's maturity and 'rule engine features' as apposed to the convenient
>>> >> bundling of open source middle-ware. I have the feeling that many will
>>> >> get introduced to rule engines through Drools now, but when searching
>>> >> for something that gets the job done they will sway elsewhere.
>>> >>
>>> >> Lets not forget, even the Drools reference area (and JBoss Rules /
>>> >> Drools Developer Book) recommends you read:
>>> >> "Jess in Action: Java Rule-based Systems"
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:26 AM, dc tech <dctech1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > Rejoining the Jess community after a multi-year hiatus and notice
>>> >> > that
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > mailing list has been very quiet.  I am curious to see how Jess is
>>> >> > doing
>>> >> > now
>>> >> > a days? Any impact from things like jBoss rules or other engines? Is
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > community still pretty active?
>>> >> > Happy Holidays to everyone !
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> V/R
>>> >> -Socrates Frangis
>>> >> -Mathematician & Software Engineer
>>> >>
>>> >>
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