on 7/11/01 3:11 PM, "burtonator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... not trying to make any friends. I am trying to further science... which I > think is more important than making friends. I also apologized ahead of time > if > you remember. > > ... please try to keep an open mind with this stuff. With what stuff? With you popping up from nowhere and saying that Jetspeed sucks and is the wrong direction? I don't think so. > It is going to be dual licensed BSD and GPL. > > I just stamped the GPL by default. All of our stuff will be dual licensed. > This will be fixed before 0.0.1 is released. > > BTW... I believe that this licensing model will be MORE flexible than the BSD > model :) I'm not concerned with flexibility because the BSD is flexible enough for me (and more flexible than the GPL) and the ASF carries the position that the ASF License is indeed compatible with the GPL. But, I'm not going to get into a licensing debate with you as I have done it before and it isn't worth wasting my time. > I expect you have examples to back that insult up??? :) It is still early > code. I need to put another pass over Talon/Sierra though. Sorry, I'm not going to help you with your code because I already have enough on my plate. Glancing at the framework stuff leaves me wondering why you are creating yet another framework once again. Here we are about two years later and you are back at the same point. I don't get you sometimes. >> and Turbine's design are even funnier. > > ... because I borrowed some good ideas from Turbine. > > "If I have seen further than others, it is because I have stood on the > shoulders > of giants." > > - Albert Einstein I doubt that Albert called the other people's works that he was duplicating a "hindrance." > I think it is naive for you to think I have no good things to say about > Turbine. I have a LOT of good things to say about Turbine. However, just like > everything ever invented there are some BAD things in it though. #1. You could have stepped up to modify Turbine to make it fit your needs instead of re-inventing the wheel yet again. So, your argument is lame. #2. Tell me the truth, when was the last time you really took a good look at Turbine? Have you see what is going on in the HEAD? Somehow, I doubt it. Even when you were working with Turbine, you made little effort to actually understand it and implement Jetspeed correctly within the Turbine model. You left a huge mess behind yourself and now you come back expecting or even suggesting that people jump ship and follow you? You just confirmed my suspicions that you are nuts. :-) > Failure to admit this would be foolish. 2.1 is a mess. 2.2/3.0 is very nice. Jason van Zyl is leading the effort and I have great confidence in his work and his design skills. They are much better than mine and he has the time to devote to it. > I don't consider that I "bashed" Turbine and I think you are taking it too > seriously. I merely think it is non-ideal. That's good, because I think pretty much everything that I have seen you do as "non-ideal." :-) Personally, I like people who stick around a project for the long haul and work to improve things over people who come and go randomly and leave unfinished messes behind. I applaud the Jetspeed developers for picking up that mess and at least attempting to shape it into something worthwhile. Good luck with your cathedral Kevin. -jon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
