on 7/11/01 5:39 PM, "burtonator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For starters... don't put words in my mouth. Did I say that Jetspeed sucks? > No. I was very careful not to even *remotely* give that impression. "I do not believe this is the future of this technology." > I want you to think of this. If I proposed an alternative architecture and > called it Jetspeed 2.0 would your reaction have been so extreme? I don't > think so. Correct. Why? Because it would have you attempting to be a part of this project and not some concoction that you came up with yourself. > 1. Turbine is not dual licensed and is not available under the GPL. Huge > restriction to my freedoms. IE I can't use it when I put on my GPL hat. Bullshit. I already told you that the ASF's view is that the two licenses are compatible. > 2. The main objections I have to Turbine is that it is WAY TOO BIG. When some > of this stuff moves to the Commons this will be negated. Bullshit. I already told you that we are doing that as well as making Turbine smaller. We just released 2.2a2. GO LOOK AT IT. > 3. I have not had time to work within the ASF because I am spending all my > time > working on OpenPrivacy. Hopefully this will change soon. Lame excuse. > 4. I don't have the time to fix EVERY project. I spend around 15 hours a day > hacking on code... where will I get the time to work on the Turbine project? I'm not asking you to do that. I'm asking you to look at Turbine where it is today. Even when you did spend time here, you didn't even bother to fully grasp it. It shows in your badly done Jetspeed code. >> #2. Tell me the truth, when was the last time you really took a good look at >> Turbine? > > ... around 30 days ago. Too long ago. >> Have you see what is going on in the HEAD? Somehow, > > yes... 30 days ago. >> I doubt it. > > because I don't checkout others code and read it??? How about reading the mailing list archives? > I was trying to ship Jetspeed on a *real* timetable. Something which the > Turbine project didn't think was worth their time. I didn't have time to > rewrite Jetspeed ever day because the Turbine API changed. You didn't even understand the API to begin with. >> You left a huge mess behind yourself and now you come back expecting or even >> suggesting that people jump ship and follow you? You just confirmed my >> suspicions that you are nuts. :-) > > There are number of ways one can categorize another's personality. One is as > a > revolutionary and yet another is as an evolutionary. > > I fall into the former category. It is what I am good at. OpenPrivacy > technologies are revolutionary and if you have an evolutionary personality I > don't expect you to understand/appreciate them. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH > The ASF *thrives* as an evolutionary model. Anyone who acts as a > revolutionary within the ASF is quickly crushed under opposition. Reptile > will start to make sense soon but I expect you to still take a stuborn stance. Bullshit. Velocity is a revolution. Ant is a revolution. Jserv was a revolution. Catalina is a revolution. > I think that one of the *best* features of the Open Source model is that > revolutionaries and evolutionaries can work together. Clearly Jetspeed has > been in the evolutionary process for a while now. Jetspeed has been stuck trying to clean up the mess you left behind. -jon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
