Paul,  Thank for the response.  It's making a little more sense.  May I
suggest another name for "Security Reference"?  It seems to me that
"Security Rule" might better convey what the Security Reference does.  The
term "Rule" implies if-then-else logic.  In the case of a Security Reference
an example might be:

If Role = "User" or Role = "Guest" Then
    Allow Action = "View"

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Spencer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: Security questions?


> David,
> See below.
>
> David wrote:
>
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > I'm trying to get a good understanding of the new security model.
>  > I've read the security proposal (several times) and I've been
>  > perusing the configuration files.  There are a couple of things I'm
>  >  not clear on.  These are the things that are obvious to me.
>  >
>  > 1) there is a many-to-many relationship between users and roles
> Yes, although this is dictated by the implementation.  In the case of
> the implementation distributed with Jetspeed, their is many-to-many
> relationship between users and roles.
>
>  >
>  > 2) there is a many-to-many relationship between roles and permissions
> Yes, although this is dictated by the PortalAuthentication
> implementation.  In the case of the registry implementation distributed
> with with Jetspeed, their is many-to-many relationship between roles and
> actions.  For a security reference, you can define actions based on
> roles and users.
>
>  >
>  > But I'm not clear on what is the definition of a "Security ID"?  How
>  >  is it really different from a role?
> A security ID, also called called a security reference, describes
> allowable actions for specific users and roles.  See the "default"
> security entry in security.xreg for an example of a security-entry that
> grants different actions based on and role.
>
>  > Also, what is the difference
>  > between actions and permissions.  It seems like they are the same
>  > thing.
> Yes, action and permissions are the same.
>
>  > And is it true that groups are not implemented with this
>  > new security model?
> Not completely true, although I do now know the complete answer to this
> question.
>
>  >
>  > Thanks
>  >
>  > -Dave
>  >
>  >
>
> Paul Spencer
>
>
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