David,
The tag <security-ref parent="abx"> references the <security-entry 
name="abx"> in the registry.  In addition the <security-ref> does not 
define the "rules", this is done by the <security-entry>.  This also 
allows a <security-entry> to be use many times, by way of the 
<security-ref>.

Paul Spencer

David wrote:

> Paul,  Thank for the response.  It's making a little more sense.  May I
> suggest another name for "Security Reference"?  It seems to me that
> "Security Rule" might better convey what the Security Reference does.  The
> term "Rule" implies if-then-else logic.  In the case of a Security Reference
> an example might be:
> 
> If Role = "User" or Role = "Guest" Then
>     Allow Action = "View"
> 
> Dave
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Spencer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Security questions?
> 
> 
> 
>>David,
>>See below.
>>
>>David wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm trying to get a good understanding of the new security model.
>> > I've read the security proposal (several times) and I've been
>> > perusing the configuration files.  There are a couple of things I'm
>> >  not clear on.  These are the things that are obvious to me.
>> >
>> > 1) there is a many-to-many relationship between users and roles
>>Yes, although this is dictated by the implementation.  In the case of
>>the implementation distributed with Jetspeed, their is many-to-many
>>relationship between users and roles.
>>
>> >
>> > 2) there is a many-to-many relationship between roles and permissions
>>Yes, although this is dictated by the PortalAuthentication
>>implementation.  In the case of the registry implementation distributed
>>with with Jetspeed, their is many-to-many relationship between roles and
>>actions.  For a security reference, you can define actions based on
>>roles and users.
>>
>> >
>> > But I'm not clear on what is the definition of a "Security ID"?  How
>> >  is it really different from a role?
>>A security ID, also called called a security reference, describes
>>allowable actions for specific users and roles.  See the "default"
>>security entry in security.xreg for an example of a security-entry that
>>grants different actions based on and role.
>>
>> > Also, what is the difference
>> > between actions and permissions.  It seems like they are the same
>> > thing.
>>Yes, action and permissions are the same.
>>
>> > And is it true that groups are not implemented with this
>> > new security model?
>>Not completely true, although I do now know the complete answer to this
>>question.
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > -Dave
>> >
>> >
>>
>>Paul Spencer
>>
>>
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