> $ echo $CLASSPATH
> /usr/local/share/java/classes/

I've found this page very useful when working with webapps and classpaths
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/class-loader-howto.html

I normally clear my classpath and go with what they recommend on the Tomcat
site

> but hey since i upgraded ant, i cannot even build jetspeed anymore.....
>

Jetspeed is at Ant 1.5. I see Ant is now at 1.5.1
Your probably the first one to try 1.5.1 with Jetspeed.
I'll try to look into it soon.
You could log a bug though...

> cochise# pwd
> /usr/local/jakarta-ant-1.5.1/lib
> cochise# ll
> total 2316
> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel     682 Oct 14 07:32 README
> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  717666 Oct 14 07:32 ant.jar
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      25 Oct 15 16:27 crimson.jar ->
> ../../classes/crimson.jar
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      22 Oct 15 16:27 jaxp.jar ->
> ../../classes/jaxp.jar
> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  654735 Oct 14 07:32 optional.jar
> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  831473 Oct 14 07:32 xercesImpl.jar
> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  108484 Oct 14 07:32 xml-apis.jar
>

Jetspeed comes with everything you need in the webapp distribution.
No need to put xerces etc in your classpath since we compile to a specific
version
In fact it usually causes problems such as the one below

> <mondo snippage>
>
>     [javac]
> /usr/local/src/jakarta-jetspeed/src/java/org/apache/jetspeed/util/
> SimpleTransform.java:481:
> cannot resolve symbol
>     [javac] symbol  : class SAXSource
>     [javac] location: class org.apache.jetspeed.util.SimpleTransform
>     [javac]                 final SAXSource xinput = new SAXSource( is
> );
>     [javac]                       ^
>     [javac]
> /usr/local/src/jakarta-jetspeed/src/java/org/apache/jetspeed/util/
> SimpleTransform.java:481:
> cannot resolve symbol
>     [javac] symbol  : class SAXSource
>     [javac] location: class org.apache.jetspeed.util.SimpleTransform
>     [javac]                 final SAXSource xinput = new SAXSource( is
> );
>     [javac]                                              ^
>     [javac]
> /usr/local/src/jakarta-jetspeed/src/java/org/apache/jetspeed/util/
> SimpleTransform.java:496:
> cannot resolve symbol
>     [javac] symbol: class StreamResult
>     [javac]                                                      new
> StreamResult( pw ) );
>     [javac]                                                          ^
>     [javac] Note: Some input files use or override a deprecated API.
>     [javac] Note: Recompile with -deprecation for details.
>     [javac] 48 errors
>

I recommend clearing your classpath and trying to compile again.
A lot of shops I've worked in always like for you to clear the classpath and
use the team's build environment/classpath.
Its really cuts down on support issues if everyone is on the same jars.

> so whether i try installing from precompiled war or compile, i am hosed.
> i wanted to learn a bit about java, not require a ph.d. before i could
> begin to figure anything out.

Don't give up yet, you've only asked one question, no big deal.
You should've seen me on my first Open Source project.
I asked a lot of dumb questions, took me forever to figure anything out.
Ive only been on Java for 4 years. Hell I still type #include at the top of
my source code

>
> as far as the php nukes go-- php nuke has security ongoing security
> issues, post-nuke forked and could be cool, except one of the lead
> developers behind the fork got killed in car crash.  additional dev
> disagreements have led to yet another fork, so who knows where
> post-nuke is going...   xoops.org is php and oo based, uses the smarty
> template engine, and shows promise but is too immature yet.  could have
> had phpgroupware up and running 100 times, but, hey, i wanted to have a
> learning experience.... the curve seems rather steep, however....

Ive used PHP before, had a very bad trip, or maybe that was LSD

>
> my post was that i am a jetspeed newbie, not that i was clueless.  by
> way of a bit of background: been a unix sysadmin for some years and
> experienced on both i386 and the big iron.  primarily fbsd on the i386
> and hp-ux on the big iron, but also experienced to some degree with
> redhat, debian, and slow-aris.  used to think i was reasonably
> intelligent as well.  something is fundamentally wrong here if i am
> having so much difficulty making this app run, which is not to say the
> problem is not on my end, as it probbaly is.  i am a tenacious sort and
> hate to give up on this because, like i said in my initial post,
> jetspeed looks cool.  i'm willing to stick with it a bit longer if i
> can get some help pointing me in the right direction, but at this point
> i am chasing my tail in circles and at a loss as to where i need to go
> next on my own without first settling down to learning java...  sorry
> about the rant, but i am not accustomed to not being able to figure
> things like this out.
>
> thanks for your time.
>

np - don't give up, the people are usually very helpful on the list, just
sometimes busy and questions occasionally slip by

David



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