I could read a couple of things by routing JAWS to PC, otherwise, could not 
read that PDF.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 5:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CONFUSED! Adobe Reader XI seems to do OCR automatically?

Gudrun,

          Now I'm a bit confused, so we're going to have to walk each other 
through some of the details to see where our differences lie and whether there 
is something toxic going on between JAWS and Adobe Reader.    Here is the IRS 
Form W9 <https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw9.pdf> , straight from the source.  
It, like every other IRS PDF file I've ever dealt with, does not need to be 
OCRed because the thing is developed in Adobe Acrobat and as is should be 
readable by JAWS.  Mind you, I don't have JAWS here but whenever I am able to 
do a search in Adobe Reader and find text that has indicated that it should be 
readable by JAWS.  Now, I haven't worked with anyone as far as what JAWS may or 
may not read in regard to the fillable fields.

          I just downloaded the above linked form W9 and opened it in Acrobat 
Reader DC.  I have searched for the phrase "income tax return" and it can be 
found at two locations.  I have filled in the first two fields, Name and 
Business Name, respectively, and was allowed to save the form.  When I close 
Adobe Reader DC entirely and then open the FW9 file that I saved all 
information I've entered remains there.

          If I hit a single tab once the file opens that places me in the first 
fillable filed, Name in this case, and each successive tab takes me to the next 
fillable field, whether that's a text/edit box, check box, etc.  My guess is 
that once one has focus on the fillable fields that is where it stays unless 
one uses the F5 command to shift focus back to the PDF document text, that's 
worth a try, anyway.  Here is the latest collection of Adobe Reader DC keyboard 
shortcuts <https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/keyboard-shortcuts.html> .  In 
a particularly perversely funny twist the keyboard shortcuts for accessibility 
are available on this page but the direct link to them is hidden unless you hit 
"show more."  Of course, a search on accessibility will get you there, too.  
That being said, the regular keyboard shortcuts may be far more pertinent.

          It would probably help us both if we know we're talking about a 
specific version of JAWS and a specific version of Adobe Reader.  I would hope 
that those who create fillable PDF forms would be taking accessibility into 
consideration (particularly government forms) and that there is some marriage 
of JAWS and Adobe Reader that would announce what those fields are when you 
land in them (which, of course, means that field names or alternate text were 
assigned by the coder).

Brian




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