Hi Brian and all: I think I finally understand one important point: The PDF Exchange viewer is for opening a scanned image-based pdf file, performing OCR of same file, saving it with resulting text layers, but you then close the Exchange Viewer and call up the saved file in Adobe DC to read it or fill it out, am I correct? Yes, I, too, have followed the download links for W9 forms that people have sent, and, in Adobe DC, I can fill that out. For a situation when you can use a generic W9 form, one should simply download the one that's accessible already.
As I mentioned in another message, some translation agencies want me to use a form that they provide, and there, I'd have to OCR it with Exchange Viewer. I get so many prospective job offers involving PDF files from translation agencies that I will certainly make use of this program. Maybe I'll even be able to accept a few of them rather than spending all my time writing polite and professional-sounding refusal letters due to lack of accessibility. I have JAWS 16 and 17, both installed on a Windows 7 system. I have experienced some glitches when I call up Adobe and have had to restart the computer. In the middle of navigating through an opened PDF file, JAWS stops speaking, no response from the braille display. Sometimes, the only thing I can do is a "Norwegian shutoff," as some tech support person expressed it. This means that the proper shutdown isn't possible to get to, so all one can do is hit the old button... Gudrun -----Original Message----- From: Brian Vogel [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 2:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: CONFUSED! Adobe Reader XI seems to do OCR automatically? [Edited Message Follows] Gudrun, Now I'm a bit confused, so we're going to have to walk each other through some of the details to see where our differences lie and whether there is something toxic going on between JAWS and Adobe Reader. Here is the IRS Form W9 <https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw9.pdf> , straight from the source. It, like every other IRS PDF file I've ever dealt with, does not need to be OCRed because the thing is developed in Adobe Acrobat and as is should be readable by JAWS. Mind you, I don't have JAWS here but whenever I am able to do a search in Adobe Reader and find text that has indicated that it should be readable by JAWS. Now, I haven't worked with anyone as far as what JAWS may or may not read in regard to the fillable fields. I just downloaded the above linked form W9 and opened it in Acrobat Reader DC. I have searched for the phrase "income tax return" and it can be found at two locations. I have filled in the first two fields, Name and Business Name, respectively, and was allowed to save the form. When I close Adobe Reader DC entirely and then open the FW9 file that I saved all information I've entered remains there. If I hit a single tab once the file opens that places me in the first fillable filed, Name in this case, and each successive tab takes me to the next fillable field, whether that's a text/edit box, check box, etc. My guess is that once one has focus on the fillable fields that is where it stays unless one uses the F5 command to shift focus back to the PDF document text, that's worth a try, anyway. Here is the latest collection of Adobe Reader DC keyboard shortcuts <https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/keyboard-shortcuts.html> . In a particularly perversely funny twist the keyboard shortcuts for accessibility are available on this page but the direct link to them is hidden unless you hit "show more." Of course, a search on accessibility will get you there, too. That being said, the regular keyboard shortcuts may be far more pertinent. It would probably help us both if we know we're talking about a specific version of JAWS and a specific version of Adobe Reader. I would hope that those who create fillable PDF forms would be taking accessibility into consideration (particularly government forms) and that there is some marriage of JAWS and Adobe Reader that would announce what those fields are when you land in them (which, of course, means that field names or alternate text were assigned by the coder). It also looks as though Adobe Reader itself has some limited capability for reading of forms sans JAWS, but you'd have to play with that to see if it's functional as far as filling in a fillable PDF that you know has a text layer already and doesn't need to be OCRed. Brian -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to [email protected] Archives located at: http://www.groups.io/g/jfw/threads Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, posts received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at [email protected]. -=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View This Message (#35906): https://groups.io/g/jfw/message/35906 Mute This Thread: https://groups.io/mt/291175?uid=21656 Change Your Subscription: https://groups.io/g/jfw/editsub?uid=21656 Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/jfw/leave/46502/1292106160/xyzzy Group Home: https://groups.io/g/jfw Contact Group Owner: [email protected] Terms of Service: https://groups.io/static/tos -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
