If obstacles are not resisted, nothing will ever happen, and how will it
be known that they are obstacles? Also, change more often than not
doesn't happens just because it is the right thing to do, but rather
when forced by enough resistance. Sometimes it even takes a law, like
the ADA.
On 1/6/2016 10:49 AM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
Brian,
Actually, numerous websites that manage crucial, private data do not use
CAPTCHA, including investment brokers, major banks, bar associations and
all the stores where I do business. Even Amazon, which other listers
are criticizing right now, doesn’t make CAPTCHA universal (I for one
have never encountered it there), and the company has made alternative
access relatively simple for those who do. So no, CAPTCHA is not needed.
At every stage of my life, I have benefited from those who insist that
something can be done and that lack of accessibility is inexcusable.
It’s unfortunate that there remain apologists for inaccessibility,
especially among those who work with disabled people ostensibly toward
achieving independence. Hardships are real and should be acknowledged,
but obstacles must be resisted.
*From:*Brian Vogel [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:37 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: What is the issue with Captchas?
Adrian,
I am not, repeat not, dismissing the concerns expressed here
nor the entirely legitimate frustration and anger. What I am trying to
do is to make people aware of the intent and purpose of Captchas, how
they came about, and the fact that they were a resounding success at
achieving what they had as their intention to achieve. That does not
remove the fact that they are a barrier and substitutes need to be found.
There also seems to be a lack of awareness on the part of many
who hate Captchas that replacements have to be developed, and that takes
time. Even if the very first person who complained against Captchas was
heard, loud and clear, the reason that they are used is legitimate, and
the damage that resulted before they were invented was significant
enough that a "cost-benefit" analysis comes out in favor of keeping
them, even as they pose a barrier until their replacement can be phased
in. No sane company is going to re-open itself to the kind of bot
attacks that these worked so brilliantly to thwart. There are actually
considerations other than accessibility that have equal or greater
weight at times. I am more than willing to be pilloried for saying
that. Even as someone who works with and advocates for individuals with
visual impairments, this was/is one of those times. This, too, shall
pass, and is passing. But no company should be expected to go back to
throwing open the gates; that's just not realistic, and that's the sad
truth even if absolutely no workaround exists.
Brian
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