An earlier, no-longer-supported, therefore less secure, version. -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Levy [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 12:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: What is the issue with Captchas?
Which means that when Firefox 45 is released in the near future, the only means for solving image captchas for us blind folks will be Rumola, unless you hang onto an earlier version of Firefox that allows Webvisum to work. Gerald -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: What is the issue with Captchas? It works only with Firefox, and regrettably, the current version of Firefox does not support it without some tinkering. Future versions of Firefox won't support it at all. -----Original Message----- From: Dacia Cole [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: What is the issue with Captchas? I've heard of webvisum what is Rumola and which browsers does it work with? I like webvisum and find it very helpful. thanks, Dacia On 1/6/16, Adrian Spratt <[email protected]> wrote: > Brian, > > Actually, numerous websites that manage crucial, private data do not use > CAPTCHA, including investment brokers, major banks, bar associations and > all > the stores where I do business. Even Amazon, which other listers are > criticizing right now, doesn’t make CAPTCHA universal (I for one have > never > encountered it there), and the company has made alternative access > relatively simple for those who do. So no, CAPTCHA is not needed. At every > stage of my life, I have benefited from those who insist that something > can > be done and that lack of accessibility is inexcusable. It’s unfortunate > that > there remain apologists for inaccessibility, especially among those who > work > with disabled people ostensibly toward achieving independence. Hardships > are > real and should be acknowledged, but obstacles must be resisted. > > From: Brian Vogel [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:37 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: What is the issue with Captchas? > > > Adrian, > > I am not, repeat not, dismissing the concerns expressed here nor > the entirely legitimate frustration and anger. What I am trying to do is > to > make people aware of the intent and purpose of Captchas, how they came > about, and the fact that they were a resounding success at achieving what > they had as their intention to achieve. That does not remove the fact > that > they are a barrier and substitutes need to be found. > > There also seems to be a lack of awareness on the part of many > who > hate Captchas that replacements have to be developed, and that takes time. > Even if the very first person who complained against Captchas was heard, > loud and clear, the reason that they are used is legitimate, and the > damage > that resulted before they were invented was significant enough that a > "cost-benefit" analysis comes out in favor of keeping them, even as they > pose a barrier until their replacement can be phased in. No sane company > is going to re-open itself to the kind of bot attacks that these worked so > brilliantly to thwart. There are actually considerations other than > accessibility that have equal or greater weight at times. I am more than > willing to be pilloried for saying that. Even as someone who works with > and > advocates for individuals with visual impairments, this was/is one of > those > times. This, too, shall pass, and is passing. But no company should be > expected to go back to throwing open the gates; that's just not realistic, > and that's the sad truth even if absolutely no workaround exists. > > Brian > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to [email protected] Archives located at: http://www.groups.io/g/jfw/threads Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, posts received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at [email protected]. -=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View This Message (#36417): https://groups.io/g/jfw/message/36417 Mute This Thread: https://groups.io/mt/364948?uid=21656 Change Your Subscription: https://groups.io/g/jfw/editsub?uid=21656 Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/jfw/leave/46502/1292106160/xyzzy Group Home: https://groups.io/g/jfw Contact Group Owner: [email protected] Terms of Service: https://groups.io/static/tos -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
