On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 09:17 am, Bill White <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Hi, Brian. I wasn't trying to PO you. I wasn't even snarking. 
What I am saying is that even though Windows-based commands which should work 
with JAWS, sometimes don't. Windows-based commands don't even work consistently 
between screen readers. For this reason, I seldom give commands for other 
screen 
readers which I am not using, because I haven't tested them, and I may not even 
have the same computer configuration as the intended user. This often changes 
how JAWS works, and what it verbalizes.

 

I apologize if I came off sounding snarky. It is just so often 
difficult dealing with the gap between what sighted users offer and what it is 
practical for blind users to implement.

 Bill,

              Apology accepted.

              I'm still not going to stop doing what I'm doing because my 
experience and yours are quite different.  I have seldom, very very seldom, had 
any Windows-based command fail to work under any screen reader that's been 
installed unless said screen reader happens to capture what would be a Windows 
command in its own layer and doesn't pass it through.  That's so infrequent 
that it will never be a first, second, or even tenth consideration for me.

              The person I know with the oldest version of JAWS and Windows is 
using JAWS 11 and WinXP.  The most recent are on various flavors of Win7 and 
somewhere between JAWS 14 and JAWS 17.  There's no way that I, or you, or most 
participants on this forum/e-mailing list could ever hope to have precisely the 
same operating environments as another in all respects.  That shouldn't be what 
determines whether someone is willing to offer advice, particularly if their 
own experiences suggest that said advice is likely to work regardless of OS 
difference or JAWS difference if the Windows Program is where the actual 
question is based.

               If ever there were a circumstance where intentions should count, 
it should be in offering assistance to others, and I don't say that in any way 
in limited to this venue.  I have yet to see a true technical "road to hell" 
paved with the proverbial "good intentions."  In direct reference to myself and 
these environs, if I offer something that doesn't work for some reason please 
let me know.  I love the challenge of finding plans B, C, etc., when "most 
obvious Plan A" doesn't work for some reason.  I can only try to comprehend 
what it's like to be blind and using a screen reader, true understanding is 
simply not possible, and freely acknowledge that.

Brian

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