I don't think you pay full price for both copies. If I remember correctly,
you pay for the audio and then pay just a couple dollars for the text
version. I may have3 that wrong, but I do know it's probably less expensive
than it would be if you actually bought the book twice. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 7:09 AM
To: Steve Griffiths; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Kindle Books, not all have audio!

I find the idea of buying two copies of a book just to get the audio
is simply absurd. There must be a market though or amazon wouldn't be
offering it. If there's one thing I've learned as both a reader and an
author it's that amazon serves itself first.

Having said that, I must say I adore the kindle app on my iPhone. It
makes me positively dizzy to be able to read almost any book I want at
the click of a button.

On 12/19/14, Steve Griffiths via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> There are two types of audio with Kindle books, synthetic speech and human
> narrated, and I think the person you spoke to at Amazon was confusing the
> two.
>
> For reading with synthetic speech, all Kindle eBooks have a text-to-speech
> setting within the product details heading on the page about that book.
The
> setting governs whether they will read with synthetic speech on a kindle
> device like the kindle keyboard, and it has two options, "enabled" or "not
> enabled". All Kindle eBooks can be read with synthetic speech in software
> apps, which means Kindle for PC with accessibility, or the Kindle apps for
> iOS and Android, or the Kindle Fire. So long as you have the Kindle for PC
> with accessibility version, you should be able to open the app and pick a
> book with JAWS, and read the book with the built in speech synthesiser.
This
> should work for any book you buy from the Kindle Store.
>
> In the UK this autumn, but maybe earlier in the US, Amazon introduced the
> "Whispersync for Voice" feature. This is where a Kindle eBook has an audio
> companion. These are two separate purchases, but if you have both, you can
> switch between reading the eBook with synthetic speech and the audio book
> with human narration. Not all Kindle eBooks have an audio companion, in
fact
> at the moment in the UK very few do. It sounds to me as if the person you
> spoke to was thinking of the Whispersync audio version rather than the
> ability to read with synthetic speech, which does not require a separate
> button to acquire.
>
> There are a couple of free books you can use to check out Whispersync for
> voice, one of which is Dracula. I found this particularly good for
> demonstrating the potential, because it contains a number of words of East
> European origin that I was unfamiliar with. I could use the audio version
to
> hear how a word is pronounced, and then switch to the synthetic speech
> version on my iPhone to check its spelling. Very neat. But I don't know if
I
> would want to buy two versions of a book to get that feature!
>
> By the way, the RNIB have some good information about eBooks, although
their
> page on kindle apps doesn't include anything about Whispersync for voice:
>
http://www.rnib.org.uk/information-everyday-living-reading-ebook-app-reviews
/kindle-ebook-apps
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Guerra
Access
> Technology Training via Jfw
> Sent: 19 December 2014 06:00
> To: 'Tim Ford'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Subject: RE: Kindle Books, not all have audio!
>
> Their was a movement several years ago about a rally against the Authors
> Gild since they were mandating that not all authors should be made to make
> their books with Audio.  Hence this is the result of the authors guild
still
> not fixing it
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Guerra Access Technology Training LLC
> An Authorized state of Minnesota Vendor for Technology Training
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Ford via
> Jfw
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:56 PM
> To: Adrian Spratt; The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Subject: Kindle Books, not all have audio!
>
> I was very excited when I successfully installed and used the Kindle P PC
> software.  I read some of the three books that come pre-loaded.  I was
able
> to do that just fine.
>
> I then bought a Kindle book, a 2014 copyright date.  It showed up on my
> Kindle software.  I went to read it, and got no speech.  I called Amazon,
> and found that not all Kindle books, even new ones, have the audio.  There
> is nothing to warn a blind purchaser that they are buying a print only
> version.  When I called Amazon, they confirmed the book I had purchased
had
> no audio.  The rep said the only way to tell is that when you are in your
> shopping cart, there is apparently a separate button to buy the version
with
> audio included.  I told him Amazon should put up a warning, since the
> absence of an audio version button would not warn someone like me who
> assumed all new Kindle books came with the audio included.
>
> So, excitement is all gone.  Amazon did of course refund my money, and
said
> to check back every couple of weeks to see if the seller had responded yet
> to Amazon's request to add an audio version.  Oh well.
>
> Tim Ford
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:59 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Subject: RE: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?
>
> Thanks for posting this useful information, but it leaves a question. If
> this Kindle comes with its own two voices, why is JAWS needed? Or put
> another way, are you saying we can ignore Amazon's voices and work just
with
> JAWS? That's what I'd want.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andre
Jarreau
> via Jfw
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:11 PM
> To: 'Nicole Massey'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Subject: RE: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?
>
> Yes there is a Kindle version with built in JAWS accessibility.  It's
called
> Kindle_for_PC with JAWS screenreader plug-in already installed in it.
> JAWS works pretty well with it.  Call Amazon Cust Support and ask for the
> Kindle_for_PC with JAWS screenreader plug-in download.  They will assist
> with getting everything onto your computer and stay with you until you get
> it up and running.
>
> Be ware the Kindle speech synthesizer has only two voices,  Male and
> female.
> Neither is very good and understanding what is written sometimes takes a
> little time.  But overall it does work fairly well with JAWS.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nicole
Massey
> via Jfw
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:49 PM
> To: 'Tim Ford'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Subject: RE: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?
>
> Well, the Kindle player for Windows should let you access it, though I
don't
> know how accessible that application is. Anyone got any experience with
it?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
>> via Jfw
>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:46 PM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Subject: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?
>>
>> I want to read a book that so far as I can tell, is available only in
>> print or Kindle.  It is a 2014 copyright date.  Is there any method,
>> accessible with JAWS, by which I can purchase the Kindle version, and
>> convert it to some file I can access?
>>
>> Tim Ford
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