One more detail -- when people read books for the blind or visually
challenged they often obtain permission from publishers and copyright
holders, but this is just a courtesy. The Copyright Act of 1976 exempts
Braille and audio versions, along with large print copies and any other
accessible forms, from copyright restrictions. I'm not a copyright lawyer,
but I was told this by one and I've had it confirmed by others.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Angel via
> Jfw
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 8:32 AM
> To: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS); The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Subject: Re: Kindle Books, not all have audio!
> 
> When people read books, they obtain first permission from the author
> and publisher to do so.  Such is spoken on the Library of Congress
> recordings, and Audible has first obtained permission from those
> entities to have the book put in to audible format.  This is why
> Universities must obtain permission from the publishers to receive
> electronic books.  I trust this clears up the mystery for you.  I am no
> copy write attorney.  But, this is my understanding of the situation.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw" <[email protected]>
> To: "Guerra Access Technology Training" <[email protected]>; "The
> Jaws forWindows support list." <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 8:09 AM
> Subject: RE: Kindle Books, not all have audio!
> 
> 
> > Somehow that is considered by some a copyright violation--nonsense.
> > If a live person reads it  to me, that's okay, but if Computer Jane
> > reads it I'm some kind of criminal; how does that work?
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Guerra
> > Access Technology Training via Jfw
> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:00 AM
> > To: 'Tim Ford'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> > Subject: RE: Kindle Books, not all have audio!
> >
> > Their was a movement several years ago about a rally against the
> > Authors Gild since they were mandating that not all authors should be
> > made to make their books with Audio.  Hence this is the result of the
> > authors guild still not fixing it
> >
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Guerra Access Technology Training LLC
> > An Authorized state of Minnesota Vendor for Technology Training
> >
> > Call Guerra Access Technology Training LLC guerra Access Technology
> > Training LLC Visit Guerra Access Technology Training on the Web
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim
> Ford
> > via Jfw
> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:56 PM
> > To: Adrian Spratt; The Jaws for Windows support list.
> > Subject: Kindle Books, not all have audio!
> >
> > I was very excited when I successfully installed and used the Kindle
> P
> > PC software.  I read some of the three books that come pre-loaded.  I
> > was able to do that just fine.
> >
> > I then bought a Kindle book, a 2014 copyright date.  It showed up on
> > my Kindle software.  I went to read it, and got no speech.  I called
> > Amazon, and found that not all Kindle books, even new ones, have the
> > audio.  There is nothing to warn a blind purchaser that they are
> > buying a print only version.  When I called Amazon, they confirmed
> the
> > book I had purchased had no audio.  The rep said the only way to tell
> > is that when you are in your shopping cart, there is apparently a
> > separate button to buy the version with audio included.  I told him
> > Amazon should put up a warning, since the absence of an audio version
> > button would not warn someone like me who assumed all new Kindle
> books came with the audio included.
> >
> > So, excitement is all gone.  Amazon did of course refund my money,
> and
> > said to check back every couple of weeks to see if the seller had
> > responded yet to Amazon's request to add an audio version.  Oh well.
> >
> > Tim Ford
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:59 PM
> > To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> > Subject: RE: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?
> >
> > Thanks for posting this useful information, but it leaves a question.
> > If this Kindle comes with its own two voices, why is JAWS needed? Or
> > put another way, are you saying we can ignore Amazon's voices and
> work
> > just with JAWS? That's what I'd want.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andre
> > Jarreau via Jfw
> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:11 PM
> > To: 'Nicole Massey'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> > Subject: RE: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?
> >
> > Yes there is a Kindle version with built in JAWS accessibility.  It's
> > called Kindle_for_PC with JAWS screenreader plug-in already installed
> > in it.
> > JAWS works pretty well with it.  Call Amazon Cust Support and ask for
> > the Kindle_for_PC with JAWS screenreader plug-in download.  They will
> > assist with getting everything onto your computer and stay with you
> > until you get it up and running.
> >
> > Be ware the Kindle speech synthesizer has only two voices,  Male and
> > female.
> > Neither is very good and understanding what is written sometimes
> takes
> > a little time.  But overall it does work fairly well with JAWS.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nicole
> > Massey via Jfw
> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:49 PM
> > To: 'Tim Ford'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> > Subject: RE: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?
> >
> > Well, the Kindle player for Windows should let you access it, though
> I
> > don't know how accessible that application is. Anyone got any
> > experience with it?
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim
> >> Ford via Jfw
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:46 PM
> >> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> >> Subject: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?
> >>
> >> I want to read a book that so far as I can tell, is available only
> in
> >> print or Kindle.  It is a 2014 copyright date.  Is there any method,
> >> accessible with JAWS, by which I can purchase the Kindle version,
> and
> >> convert it to some file I can access?
> >>
> >> Tim Ford
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