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On 3 Jan 2003 at 16:34, Jordi Salvat i Alabart wrote:

> Dear co-contributors,
> 
> I've been thinking about some non-technical JMeter issues which I'd like
> to share with you. It's mostly issues that have been raised into this
> list during the recent weeks and have been only partially addressed. I'm 
> just exposing them here because I think they need further discussion.
> 
> 1/ Committers
> 
> We all agree that we need to keep the ball rolling (in my case, because 
> I use JMeter for work and need it getting better as fast as possible, 
> others will have their own reasons). My (our?) current strategy is to 
> get as much people on-board as possible: if they don't touch at CVS, 
> makes no harm, if they touch, it makes progress. Of course this was 
> absolutely necessary at the recent stage of the project, where it was 
> getting stalled, but can become a problem in the future. Would be nice 
> to discuss where we want go to in this matter. For example, I would 
> propose a consensus policy requiring any committer to relinquish his 
> rights before unsubscribing from the dev mailing list -- if we ever 
> suspect someone has "disappeared" from the project, we can ping him on 
> the list. If we do this, we will know how many active committers there 
> are, and we can react if it gets below a certain threshold.

The more people one board, the more trouble we might have making big decisions for 
JMeter's future.  I think that should be kept in mind.  Now would be a good time to 
make 
certain decisions before we get too big to make them effectively.  After those 
decisions are 
made, then more people can be added safely.  

> 
> 2/ Contributions
> 
> We want to encourage the people who use JMeter to contribute. I believe 
> the best way to do this is to make things easy for them. In my opinion, 
> there's some technical aspects of JMeter which place a too high 
> threshold on this. The relationship between GUI and test elements and 
> this Avalon configuration stuff were the most important for me. Poor 
> JavaDoc documentation is another. Absence of nightly builds is probably 
> the worse. Even sloppy indenting contributes to the difficulties. Is 
> there any non-technical issues we should address on this matter?

I think documenation is the place to start.  I'd be happy to do some work here, both 
in 
javadocs and in "developer docs", but I need help knowing what you guys have questions 
about.   I've tried to do this in the past, and it didn't help people much - I'm just 
not very good 
at it.

> 
> 3/ Long-term development plan
> 
> We lack a long-term development plan. JMeter is still far from being a 
> mature product, yet its development is mainly driven by bug-fixing and 
> small functional enhancements. At the very least, we need to agree on a 
> loose high-level end-user requirement list [I think I already have a 
> document of this kind somewhere -- the one I used to select JMeter among 
> other tools quite a few months ago].

I have thoughts in this area.  I would like the GUI itself improved (currently, the 
tree has a 
confusing mixture of ordered elements and unordered elements - I'd like these 
separated 
somehow).  I would like function parsing to be fully recursive rather than the complex 
2-pass 
method currently in place.  I'd like jtl to be changed to a simpler format (eg CSV).  
And useful 
developer docs made.  

> 
> Opinions?
> 
> Salut,
> 
> Jordi.
> 
> 
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