Your concern is valid.  The diff's thing just doesn't bother me much.  But if ya'll 
are 
in agreement, then we can just use Sun's standard.

I suppose I'll start the vote.  Use Sun's standard for code format (this is also 
Apache standard)? -1 for me.

Use Tabs (not spaces) in code: BIG ol' +1 from me.  Please, please please....

-Mike

On 4 Jan 2003 at 21:15, Oliver Rossmueller wrote:

> Mike Stover wrote:
> > Re: code-style - I'm not a big fan of standards that insist on X number of spaces, 
> > braces have to be here and here, etc.  I don't understand why that needs to be 
> > standard when, at the push of a button, my IDE makes the code look exactly the 
> > way I want it to look.  If you don't have such an IDE, there are lots of 
>independent 
> > packages that do it, JRefactory being one of the most interesting (available at 
> > sourceforge).  The only thing I'd like to see is the use of tabs, so no one has to 
>do 
> > anything special to get their spacing right.
> > 
> > That, however, just points out the real problem - having coding standards doesn't 
> > automatically make things easier for everyone.  It makes things a pain for those 
> > who "lose" the debate, and easier for those who win.  I'd rather see everyone win. 
> 
> > Get yourself a simple code formatter, and use it on files you edit, if you like.
> 
> There is no problem to get the sources formatted the way you like it, 
> everybody has an IDE or tool to do this. But the point is: if everybody 
> does formatting the way he/she likes it and commits these reformatted 
> sources to the cvs you will get lots of diffs not because of changes in 
> the implementation but because of reformatting and therefore it is hard 
> to see the changes that really matter. In the long run you save a lot of 
> time by having a styleguide. Of course this requires some compromises, 
> but that's is the way team work goes. So if there is a styleguide we can 
> reuse from another jakarta project we should just do it. Otherwise we 
> have to find our own.
> 
> Oliver
> 



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