Question is, how will JMeter help then work? 

It's very useful to be able to click ^H while on a test element and
have the relevant section displayed. Is there any easy way to do this
with a PDF file? How would the index markers be defined?

By the way, the XML processing includes automatic indexing and
cross-referencing. I suspect most of this would have to be done
manually by the Wiki editors.

I think the potential benefits are much less than the costs. And I
wonder if many users would actually take the trouble to update the
manual on the Wiki.

S.
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 16:55:14 -0500, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well I could always use Acrobat to make a PDF of the wiki site. or
> does that sound a bit much?
> 
> peter
> 
> 
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 16:26:16 -0500, Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That's a good point.  Maybe we could come up with a documentation
> > download that does just package up a section of the wiki.
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 21:14 +0000, sebb wrote:
> > > If the docs are only on the Wiki, then the built-in JMeter help will
> > > stop working, surely?
> > >
> > > I think we need to provide documentation with the JMeter download, so
> > > JMeter can be used on systems that don't have Internet access.
> > >
> > > If the Wiki documentation can be easily packaged up and included in
> > > JMeter downloads, then perhaps it would be OK, but I'm not sure that
> > > would be easy. Wiki markup is not HTML...
> > >
> > > S.
> > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:32:01 -0500, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I like the idea of letting the users edit the docs, since often it's
> > > > too much hassle for users to checkout the docs, make a patch, submit
> > > > patch and then we commit it.
> > > >
> > > > peter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 15:20:34 -0500, Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 20:10 +0000, sebb wrote:
> > > > > > OK by me, with one proviso - would it be easy to optionally generate
> > > > > > JMX files in the old format? That should make the transition easier
> > > > > > for some.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, I can do that.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am intending to create a 2.0.3 release soon, as there are quite a
> > > > > > few useful fixes in 2.0.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > S.
> > > > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 11:47:03 -0500, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > I'll try to move the webservice related docs on wiki this weekend
> > > > > > > also. along with general clean up.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > peter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 11:08:02 -0500, Mike Stover <[EMAIL 
> > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I plan on devoting some of my time in the next 2 weeks to
> > > > > > > > 1. cleaning out obsolete documentation in the wiki
> > > > > > > > 2. Moving the User Manual from the web site to the wiki
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not sure about this at all - why would that help?
> > > > >
> > > > > Because we have a lot of trouble keeping the docs up-to-date, and a 
> > > > > lot
> > > > > of useful user information is split between the user-manual and the 
> > > > > wiki
> > > > > area.  If we put it all on the wiki, users can update the documenation
> > > > > for us (ie, users often learn things about the components I don't even
> > > > > know/realize - no reason they can't put it in the documentation 
> > > > > directly
> > > > > if it's on the wiki).
> > > > >
> > > > > Plus, updating the docs becomes easier - just change the wiki, forget
> > > > > about writing it in xml then transforming it to html then uploading to
> > > > > apache...
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 3. Putting finishing touches on the code in CVS HEAD
> > > > > > > > 4. Making the 2.1 branch in preparation for a release.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What do people think?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Mike
> > > > > > > >
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