This is definitely not good....Thus I think it is in our best interest to begin experimenting with OpenJDK on the Mac. The biggest problem I foresee is that this will kill the usefulness of Jmol in web pages on MacOS. We'll be back to the same problem we had with chime where it ran on fewer and fewer platforms. Of course we can also encourage people to switch over to Linux. Most versions are not quite as glitzy as MacOS, but like MacOS they're more stable and more functional than Windows.
To some extent I understand the objection to the overhead incurred by Java, but for most applications maintaining different code bases for different platforms is not necessary to get good performance on a modern computer. I personally hope this ends up hurting Apple. If they don't release the work they've done so far, they really deserve to get damaged by this move. Jonathan On Oct 22, 2010, at 5:48 AM, Egon Willighagen wrote: > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Rzepa, Henry > <h.rz...@imperial.ac.uk> wrote: >>> http://lists.apple.com/archives/Java-dev/2010/Oct/msg00248.html >> >> That expresses future aspirations, rather than testable reality. >> There is nothing for >> OS X at http://openjdk.java.net/ > > You can find instructions floating around on the web on how to build > it... this is one hit: > > http://confluence.concord.org/display/CCTR/Build+OpenJDK+Java+1.7.0+on+Mac+OS+X+10.5 > >> The argument is that implementing Java for OS X would almost >> certainly require Apple to release source code for the graphical >> implementations. If that does not happen, then the actual >> experience on the Mac may become a poor one. > > True. Just like we have seen with the Classpath libraries... > > Well, you only payed minimal money for OS/X, so what can you > expect? ;) > >> Jobs appears to want to take OS X towards iOS, which is away from >> using a mouse and towards using gestures. I think that adapting >> Java for that sort of environment is going to require major work. > > Yeah, that is one good reason for Jobs to drop Java... of course, if > he would have gone Open Source, he could have shared this burden... > > Egon > > -- > Dr E.L. Willighagen > Postdoctoral Research Associate > University of Cambridge > Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/ > LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw > Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/ > PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America > contest > Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and > Canada > $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in > marketing > Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi > Store > http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Jmol-developers mailing list > Jmol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers Dr. Jonathan H. Gutow Chemistry Department gu...@uwosh.edu UW-Oshkosh Office:920-424-1326 800 Algoma Boulevard FAX:920-424-2042 Oshkosh, WI 54901 http://www.uwosh.edu/facstaff/gutow ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Jmol-developers mailing list Jmol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers
