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On Tuesday 21 December 2004 16:26, Bob Hanson wrote:
> Egon, does the "plug-in" concept then require individual client
> installations of the plug-in? > My feeling is that this is fine for a local 
> environment but probably not for general use. (I'm also wondering if you
> are referring to the Jmol applet or the Jmol application working with a
> plug-in.)

Now I still forgot to mention that... :( 

The plugin thingy at this moment only applies to the Jmol application...

> I think it would be good to explore what sorts of things the Jmol applet
> can do now, things that people haven't yet capitalized on. For example:
>
> --Now using "show file" one can take a given server-based model, select a
> subset, and deliver that set to a server for storage or to the user for
> clipping into a local file. (BTW, here I can see how "show selection" would
> be useful, Miguel.)

I'm missing something here... why do you want to do this?

> --Say you have a server that can do calculations. Using "show file" and a
> bit of JavaScript one can now deliver the coordinates of any model or
> portion of a model being displayed, receive a reply from the server, and do
> something with that reply. (This might require framing if the
> server-calculator is running from CGI.)

Ah....

> --With ".loadInline()" it's possible to use Jmol in concert with any other
> server-based applet or any plug-in to display whatever one likes with or
> without reference to any server-based file.
>
> --With "show file" and ".loadInline()" it's possible to merge files or
> portions of files, and display them on top of one another or side-by-side,
> either individually or together. (They rotate and zoom together.)
>
> --With "show file" and ".loadInline()" it's possible to merge two files and
> measure distances between atoms in two different models.
>
> --With "show file" and ".loadInline()" and maybe a bit more in the way of
> something like "save orientation" and, after .loadInline(), "restore
> orientation" I could imagine one could even use Jmol as a web-based
> "molecular builder" application. Start with a server-side structure and
> start adding groups.

Yes, these are good things. These are more or less the applet equivalent of 
the application plugins.

> I, know, I'm a JavaScript nut. But, really, this is what JavaScript was
> designed to do and is perfect for -- the linking of components. I'd
> encourage people with and interest in creative applications of Jmol to
> consider using client-side JavaScript to directly access the Jmol applet
> and try out some of these new capabilities.

Applets wrapping plugins to extend the Jmol applet... yes, that might be 
cool :)

Egon

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