On 2005-04-27 (09:10) Philip Bays wrote:

>I have a somewhat different experience, I think.  Let's try to focus
>in on some specific sites to compare.   I am using the following:
>
>http://dev.molvisions.com/debugging/jmolcalls_nocallback.html
>
>www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/Stereochemistry/Fischer.htm
>
>http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms/
>
>

hi Phil,

I think it is a good idea to focus on specific test sites; in addition, the 
code should be as simple as possible.  that way we won't start discussing if 
callbacks are interfering, whether document.getElementById or 
document.applets[] are working, etc.

I have put together a debugging package.  it includes six html files. they 
differ in whether callbacks are active, and from where they call the JmolApplet 
(same dir, sub dir, and parent dir).

I propose that we copy these files to a few different servers and see how they 
function on different systems.  that way we can control code differences, 
access differences, and callbacks as variables.

if this is acceptable, I have posted a zip of the package here:

<http://dev.molvisions.com/debugging/jmolaccess/jmolaccess.zip>

if you have a public www server, you can download and unzip the folder, then 
copy it to your server and email me the url to access it.  once we have a few 
set up, I'll send a list of them to the list and ask for feedback from 
different systems.

I have the package running on my server now:

<http://dev.molvisions.com/debugging/jmolaccess/main/>

(the index page is inside 'main' so I can include a parent dir above main to 
hold an applet copy.)

what do you think?

regards,

tim
-- 
Timothy Driscoll
molvisions - see, grasp, learn.
<http://www.molvisions.com/>
usa:north carolina:raleigh



>I find that if I load any one of the three into a fresh Safari, it
>works but the subsequent loads do not.
>
>I am running 10.3.9 with Java 1.42_05_141.4 on two platforms.   On 
>a third, I have the same but I did not apply the most recent 10.3.9
>security and java patches.   It exhibits the same issue.   So it is
>not those updates.  On lab machines, we are running 10.3.5 with java
>1.4.2_05_141.3.  Those machines do not exhibit this issue; all
>pagers load fine sequentially.
>
>On the other hand, Bob looked at  10.3.4 and 10.3.5 machines
>yesterday and they had problems, though it was not clear that those
>problems were the same as this problem.
>
>I would like to hear from some others, including Tim, Bill, Bob and
>I to see if we can tabulate any sort of OS and Java version
>patterns. Can we use these three links as tests?
>
>Phil
>
>On Apr 27, 2005, at 8:14 AM, William Reusch wrote:
>
>>Tim,
>>
>>I have just examined the following group of pages, loaded in the
>>order given. Â 1. A page from our server, a Silicon Graphics
>>platform  2. Your test page  3. A page running on my local Mac Â
>>4. A different page from our server, using a different
>>JmolApplet.jar  5. Phil's Fischer projection page
>>(saintmarys.edu/~pbays/Stereochemistry/Fischer.htm) Â 6. Bob's
>>mirror of your test page. The first four run fine, even after
>>recycling through all six in random fashion. The last two load but
>>do not function.
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>timothy driscoll wrote:
>>>On 2005-04-26 (16:00) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>UNFAIR!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bob, Tim , Phil et. al. My finding is similar and yet different.
>>>>>I have loaded Tim's original test page, sandwiched between two
>>>>>pages of mine which use different copies of JmolApplet.jar files
>>>>>on my local Mac, and all pages execute as designed in Safari,
>>>>>even reloading in a random fashion. However Bob's two pages,
>>>>>which I found to perform properly in two earlier tests fail when
>>>>>added to the group. The others continue to function well after
>>>>>this addition. Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>I believe the key here is 'local Mac.'  I have found that this
>>>problem is restricted to server instances, not local filesystems. 
>>>so in the first set of three, my test page is the only
>>>server-based example and no failure.  but in he second set, we
>>>have mine plus Bob's pages from different locations, and failure.
>>>
>>>any takers?  ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>tim
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>J. Philip Bays Department of Chemistry and Physics Saint Mary's
>College Notre Dame   IN  46556 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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