On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Thomas Stout <[email protected]>wrote:
> > I'm not at all fussed about the "flick" behavior - just thought I'd mention > it for data purposes -- you're right, it's probably my non-reproducibility! > > Many thanks for the translucency vs zshade fix -- I think depth cuing is > really crucial for non-experts to really get an intuitive sense of what > they're looking at and locating themselves in space -- this is a fantastic > feature. I also think it makes Jmol look really "polished" > And, once I found out how it works, it was actually extremely simple to implement -- other than my missing the fact that it removed translucent objects. > > Thanks Bob! > -Tom > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Robert Hanson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Thomas Stout <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> I believe that I have just stumbled into either an oversight, a bug or >>> -- most likely -- my not keeping up with version changes... >>> >>> Anyway, I recently decided that it was time to consider upgrading a >>> (private) site that I maintain from Jmol version 11.6RC16 (signed) to the >>> current version. I downloaded and installed Jmol 11.9.10 into my sandboxed >>> version of the site and started testing all the features/functions that the >>> site requires. Everything seems great & the site runs fine "as is", so the >>> next step was to start implementing some of the new features. As a result, >>> I've made the following two observations: >>> >>> i) when I turn on "set allowgestures", the "click-and-throw" works nicely >>> to initiate rotations in a given direction. However, once antialiasDisplay >>> is turned on, the gestures no longer function. However, I should also say >>> that I find the "touch" necessary to initiate the ongoing rotation to be >>> tricky to attain & perhaps with antialiasing on the timing becomes even more >>> narrow and I am simply unable to achieve the correct mousing action... >>> Turning antialiasing off does recover my ability to initiate the rotation >>> however (and I've gotten much better at it with all this testing!) I do >>> think though that this may be a browser specific issue. Gestures appear to >>> continue to function with antialiasing on under WinXP with IE, but not >>> function using Safari, Chrome or Firefox. I first discovered it using FF >>> 3.0.14 under RHEL5. Both my linux box and windows machine are running a >>> very recent install of java (v 6 update 17). I do not have a Mac to test >>> that environment... >>> >>> >> I'm not seeing that problem. Could be just training. But understand that >> that command is really geared toward touch-screen users. In that case the >> release and the end of the gesture both one moment in time. You just lift >> your finger while moving it. It's sometimes called a "flick." >> >> >>> ii) when I turn on zshading (LOVE IT), my translucent surfaces become >>> undisplayed. Turning zshade off re-displays the surfaces. I'm using VDW >>> surfaces only, so I don't know if this applies to any other type of >>> surface. Here is an example of one of my surface creation commands: >>> >>> Glad you like that. A simple fix -- Fixed for Jmol 11.9.11 >> >> >>> javascript:jmolScript('select (:Z or pdbligand) and not solvent; >>> isosurface ligZsurface ignore(protein or solvent) vdw -80% select(:Z or >>> pdbligand) SASURFACE RESOLUTION 50.0 translucent on ;'); >>> >>> BTW, if surfaces are made opaque then they continue to remain displayed >>> when zshade is turned on. I've tried translucencies from 5-95% and the >>> effect is the same. >>> >>> I've observed the surface on/off issue under both Linux (RHEL5) and WinXP >>> using Firefox (linux: version 3.0.14 / WinXP: version 3.5) and IE (Win >>> only). I have the most recent java on both machines (version 6 update 17). >>> >>> Any insights/suggestions? >>> >>> Many thanks as always! >>> -Tom >>> >>> PS - The zshading was my inspiration to upgrade the site since the >>> perception of depth is so greatly enhanced -- I really hope this is a minor >>> issue so that I can deploy it! >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Return on Information: >>> Google Enterprise Search pays you back >>> Get the facts. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Jmol-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Robert M. Hanson >> Professor of Chemistry >> St. Olaf College >> 1520 St. Olaf Ave. >> Northfield, MN 55057 >> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr >> phone: 507-786-3107 >> >> >> If nature does not answer first what we want, >> it is better to take what answer we get. >> >> -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Return on Information: >> Google Enterprise Search pays you back >> Get the facts. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jmol-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Return on Information: > Google Enterprise Search pays you back > Get the facts. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev > > _______________________________________________ > Jmol-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users > > -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900
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