That's something that should have been done privately and directly to the person involved.
How do you know Ben's criticism is accurate? How do you know Sundar hasn't learned to write better code since that time? This was not the appropriate place for his criticism. ----- Original Message ---- From: Andrew Wint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: RDP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Donna Marie Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; jobs@lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 12:00:22 PM Subject: Re: [nyphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of crappy code' and not being able to take action because they are in another country. Another point is that this why we have standards of development practices, these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in his growth. As well as protect a small struggling company, thinking they are saving money but falling into a trap. Ben did a good thing. On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you can't evaluate experience without examining ones work. And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an individual was let go because of inability. Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP coders down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, because their work was criticized. Bye, Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Marie Vincent To: jobs@lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [nyphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? Even a former employer would not give out this type of information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be valid? This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, or a company's business practice. --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ben Sgro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [nyphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references To: Cc: jobs@lists.nyphp.org Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM Hey, I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no functions. No layouts, templates or smarty. Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. Be sure to request some source before you work with him. - Ben sundar rajan wrote: > > Hi , > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > of experience in building web applications . > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > /Creating Custom scripts > Member signup with email verification & login with session authentication > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > libraries > Command line processing of PHP scripts > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > Google Maps <http://maps.google.com/> API to display a location with > pop-up info > XML parsing to database > CSV parsing to database > RSS feeds using Carp > Handling File uploads > Generating statistics reports from the database values > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > Generating Excel download from the database values > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > linux boxes > / > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > <http://www.sundarrajan.com/> to know more about my skill-set , > experiences , projects as well as client references. > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > -- > With regards, > Sundar > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php ________________________________ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php_______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
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