In a message dated 11/09/01 05:53:56 GMT Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Brothers and sisters! This is the way (Thank you Kate) to address this
 issue. Name calling does nothing, but reduce the situation further (as in
 some earlier emails). I truly understand everyones frustration in the matter
 because I know Mark (who THINKS he's Marcel) and none of the names fit what
 I am hearing tonight. I think it's not time to bring out the hammers and the
 boards and the nails, but the olive branches and flowers to share.  >>

Dear Michael,

It's all very well preaching love, but Marcel is spreading hate, poisoning 
the list and the inboxes of those he harrasses privately.  I for one am not 
asking anyone to shun their friends or to hate them; however it sometimes 
comes to the point where we have to say "what you did there was not OK".  If 
you think that Marcel's private post to Debra was OK, well, I'll be shocked 
and amazed.  Maybe you dislike it as much as I do; however, if nobody said so 
then Marcel would think his behaviour was acceptable to everyone.  

I am aware that my post may be one of the ones you were referring to as name 
calling and making things worse; I don't see it that way.  I honestly 
couldn't live with myself if I let a campaign of hatred and vitriol like 
Marcel's against Debra go without raising a protest against it.  I don't make 
any ad hominem insults in my post.  Some may think "you need help" is a gross 
insult.  As someone who has received a fair bit of "help" in my time, ie 
therapy, it is not intended as an insult.

Sure, there are disagreements on list all the time, and hackles are raised.  
This is of another order altogether.

Regards

Azeem

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