Kakki writes:
<< I don't know I think it would be more noble to expose voter fraud, but
maybe
it would not be so good politically because it would disenfranchise the
majority of innocent Florida voters.>>
I think the voter fraud in this case is self-evident and well-exposed
already, it really represents republicans shooting themselves in the foot.
Again, the voters' rights are paramount in my mind.
<<No, if the court finds that they are fraudulent, then the law should be
followed and they should not be counted.>>
I couldn't agree more, but that's going to take a while to shake out. Time
the Gore camp doesn't have. If that's decided after the electoral vote in
Gore's favor after Bush is declared winner, what would be the remedy?
They're not going to remove Bush from office at that point. No way.
<<From a legal standpoint, the case has not been decided yet, but some legal
scholars think the transgression of filling in a number on the application
is not in the same legal ballpark as tampering with the actual ballot
itself.>>
Agreed. But what about the idea that a govenment official would let these
people in to set up shop in a government office to do all that? That's
atrocious.
<<Part of the problem and reason why there is so much legal wrangling going
on
now, it that there have been no clear standards of what counts as a vote,
dimple, etc.>>
Yes, just as there is no clear standard for what represents a fair ballot
design. What represents a vote is left to the descretion of the counties by
law. Maybe not the fairest scenario imaginable, but it's what's lawful and
in place.
> >We simply need to count the ballots of everyone who voted legally, however
long it takes.<<
>
The Bush camp is at liberty to request a recount whereever they want to. I
think they did initiate a recount push in New Mexico, but that runs counter
to their strategy of decrying recounts as unreliable. They painted
themselves into a corner on that. They figure recounts can only work against
them and would create an atmosphere of implied tolerance of recounts as a way
to settle this mess.
<<And before you all want to start the kindling at the stake for me, I have
not voted for Republican presidential candidates in 5 past elections.>>
What, that little fire? I was just enacting the last verse to "Urge for
Going." Next, I'll pull the blankets up to my chin. :-)
Seriously, I won't pretend that this news of your voting history doesn't
please me, Kakki, but I'm quite sure I would hold you in the highest esteem
and treasure your friendship either way.
-Julius