Kakki writes:

<< I don't know I think it would be more noble to expose voter fraud, but 
maybe
 it would not be so good politically because it would disenfranchise the
 majority of innocent Florida voters.>>

I think the voter fraud in this case is self-evident and well-exposed 
already, it really represents republicans shooting themselves in the foot.  
Again, the voters' rights are paramount in my mind.
 
 <<No, if the court finds that they are fraudulent, then the law should be
 followed and they should not be counted.>>

I couldn't agree more, but that's going to take a while to shake out.  Time 
the Gore camp doesn't have.  If that's decided after the electoral vote in 
Gore's favor after Bush is declared winner, what would be the remedy?  
They're not going to remove Bush from office at that point.  No way.
 
<<From a legal standpoint, the case has not been decided yet, but some legal
 scholars think the transgression of filling in a number on the application
 is not in the same legal ballpark as tampering with the actual ballot 
itself.>>

Agreed.  But what about the idea that a govenment official would let these 
people in to set up shop in a government office to do all that?  That's 
atrocious.
 
 <<Part of the problem and reason why there is so much legal wrangling going 
on
 now, it that there have been no clear standards of what counts as a vote,
 dimple, etc.>>

Yes, just as there is no clear standard for what represents a fair ballot 
design.  What represents a vote is left to the descretion of the counties by 
law.  Maybe not the fairest scenario imaginable, but it's what's lawful and 
in place.
 
 
> >We simply need to count the ballots of everyone who voted legally, however
 long it takes.<<
 
 >

The Bush camp is at liberty to request a recount whereever they want to.  I 
think they did initiate a recount push in New Mexico, but that runs counter 
to their strategy of decrying recounts as unreliable.  They painted 
themselves into a corner on that.  They figure recounts can only work against 
them and would create an atmosphere of implied tolerance of recounts as a way 
to settle this mess.
 
 <<And before you all want to start the kindling at the stake for me, I have
 not voted for Republican presidential candidates in 5 past elections.>>

What, that little fire?  I was just enacting the last verse to "Urge for 
Going."  Next, I'll pull the blankets up to my chin. :-)  

Seriously, I won't pretend that this news of your voting history doesn't 
please me, Kakki, but I'm quite sure I would hold you in the highest esteem 
and treasure your friendship either way.
 
-Julius

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