In a message dated 1/14/01 2:10:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<<  If he 
 means that his religious beliefs are inborn as was his sexuality, then I 
have 
 to disagree.  If spirituality is inborn, then so would be non-belief.  And 
 Christianity is well know for converting.  >>

first, i'm not offended at anything that has been said. i was frustrated when 
i felt that people were not able to listen to my experience with out having 
to find a pre-ordered framwork to fit it in.  im over that now.  and i would 
say something about clark at this point...i love clark's emotional intensity. 
 he can not hide his feelings for very long and when he lets them out they 
come out as they really are and i like that in him.  even if it pisses me 
off.  you have to like clark.  he's too original to not.

now to this above here, i have a thought.  first, let me clarify something.  
i speak of spirituality and faith experience.  i am not speaking of belief.  
beliefs are uncertains.  we hope, we believe, but we don't really know.  but 
the experience i speak of is proven in my experience and i have had such 
faith experiences and i do think they are as innate as sexuality.  the 
problem with them is i can't prove them to you or anyone.  but that's ok.

now to your words about non-belief being innate and conversion.  i want to 
suggest something.  i look at conversion like......coming out.  it is not a 
new thing being planted in someone who did not have it.  it is not non-belief 
becoming belief.  it is the spiritual man awakening from within.  it's a 
reclaiming of a natural born quality that rested dormant for years in someone 
who was unable to see it earlier, for whatever reason.  

now....that's a decent answer, isn't it.  
patrick
np. tv

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