Randy Remote wrote:
> A few disjointed thoughts-
> I find if odd that no one discussing this has expressed any
> sympathy for the victim(s).
because the victims weren't being discussed. I didn't think it necessry to state
how appalled I felt about their fate.
> They're dead. Pretty harsh penalty.
> Also, the bit about society and abuse creating these types of
> criminals is somewhat of a generalization,
no it isn't but people like to think so.
> in danger of becoming
> coddling. Of course I am against abuse of children and recognise
> the damage it does.
I don't think you do and I don't think many people do.
> But there are plenty of examples of children
> with good upbringing that have turned out wrong.
yes? Again, just a ploy used by those who refuse to accpet the obvious.
> Sometimes
> people are just plain bad,
don't believe that.
> and no amount of psychiatric evaluation
> or rehabilitation can change it.
that i think is true in cases of severe damage.
> They get out and kill or rape again.
> These people need to be isolated from society.
I totally agree with that. Adults who commit crimes of child abuse, murder etc
should NEVER be freed again.
>
> Conversely, there are many people who have suffered abuse in
> their early lives, and have gotten past it to live productive lives.
yes there are-I being one of them-but many many more end up dead, in lockled
wards or in prison.
>
>
> One more thing. It seems that alot of these school shootings
> and violent behavior can be traced to 'behavior modification'
> type drugs, Ritalin, Prozac, etc. Considering that the pharmaceutical
> industry is the first or second largest industry, and considering their
> methods of kicking back money and perks to doctors for
> prescribing these often dangerous +/or unpredictable potions,
> maybe they should be put on trial, too.
too right! Pyschiatry and the drug companies have much to answer for.
>
> Then there's always alcohol, linked to something like 90% of violent
> crimes (in adults anyway).
yes tho alchol is often used as an excuse. men and women who sexually abuse
often state they were 'drunk' and didn't know what they were doing.
>
> RR
> ps Yesterday I heard the mother of the convicted 14 year old on
> the radio saying "Just pray to God that you never find yourself
> going through what I'm going through".
I would think this statement includes the grief she feels at the death of the
man. It also needs to be taken into account that she is probably in deep shock
and unable to speak her thoughts as clearly as you like. Since we are not in her
shoes,. we cannot judge or even beigin to imagine what she is feeling and going
thru. It also needs to rememebred that her son was a 13 year old child when he
did this awful thing and is still only a child.
We have no way of knwoing whteher or not she is self centred tho people in pain
usually are in just the same way as a person with tooh ache becomes tooth
centred.
However, there is no doubt that there was somnthing sevrely lacking in this boys
upbringing. the reslut is very sad for everyone concerned.
> True enough, and quite
> possibly taken out of context, but what about what the victim's
> family is going through? Is this a clue that might lead to the
> self-centered attitude that this child was exposed to?
>
> colin wrote:
>
> > this should read 28 years.
> >
> > colin wrote:
> >
> > > I really do not undertsand the American legal system.
> > > A 14 year old was tried as an adult for a crime he committed as a 13
> > > year old. The crime was murder and and appaling, dreadful crime murder
> > > is. However, it is also just so outrageoues that a child should be
> > > treated this way. He has been senteneced to 298 years in prison. It is
> > > no surprise that this child is black. How can a child be treated like an
> > > adult? Where is the justice? Human beings make me so ashamed sometimes.
> > > There is no way this piece of barbarity can be justified. a child is a
> > > child is a child.
> > >
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