There should be a one page quick start guide shipped with each template at the very least.
David Roth On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Stephen Britton <sbrit...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes Chris and Matt. That is what I done too. > > I got tried of spending time trying to work with commercial templates and > two years ago created my own "minimal" Joomla template that borrows from > the 960 grid system CSS framework and some code from Matt's Construct > Framework. > > There is no javascript, Mootools, and jQuery, just a basic stripped down > layout with about a dozen module positions and a Suckerfish CSS horizontal > menu. Then depending on the project, I can add Mootools or jQuery menus if > requested. > > I am currently updating my framework template with the Twitter Bootstrap > framework, which has jQuery features, but they are very basic. > > Matt, do you know if the templates shipping with Joomla 3.0 with be based > on Bootstrap? > > - - - Steve > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Chris French <cont...@chrisfrench.me>wrote: > >> I agree with Matt, Years ago I found the tempting frameworks very useful >> but as i started to develop my own templates I found them very frustrating >> to develop custom code into. >> >> I now always just use joomla native templating >> >> Chris >> >> >> On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Matt Thomas wrote: >> >> One aspect worth noting, regarding frameworks, is that many of them were >> originally created to make it easier for user's to modify and customize the >> template through an administrative interface. One side effect of that a few >> of them had to create their own unique solutions to accomplish this, which >> resulted in a more complicated code base. >> >> Some users that need to modify custom templates, might find it easier to >> avoid frameworks like this and build a template from the ground up. Other >> frameworks are more easily modified on the code level. >> >> It's sort of the yen yang of code complexity versus user experience. >> >> Best, >> >> Matt Thomas >> Founder betweenbrain <http://betweenbrain.com/>™ >> Lead Developer Construct Template Development >> Framework<http://construct-framework.com/> >> Phone: 203.632.9322 >> Twitter: @betweenbrain >> Github: https://github.com/betweenbrain >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Stephen Britton <sbrit...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Hi Janet, >>> >>> Thank you for the advice. I'll give it a try. >>> >>> - - - Steve >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Janet Sullivan >>> <jmsulliva...@yahoo.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Stephen: >>>> >>>> I'm using a "son of yoothemes" template, that also uses the Warp >>>> framework. In order for the "styles" folder to work, >>>> you need to duplicate the "empty-style" folder in the framework, rename >>>> it to something - (like my_custom_styles) then >>>> ftp my-custom-styles to the Styles folder within the template folder, >>>> and it seems to work. >>>> >>>> >>>> Janet Sullivan >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Stephen Britton <sbrit...@gmail.com> >>>> *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla@lists.nyphp.org> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2012 3:37 PM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [joomla] How hard can it be to make an override? >>>> >>>> I agree the new YooTheme templates undergone major changes. The 2.5 >>>> versions are far more code heavy than 1.5. The Warp framework has added >>>> another layer to figure out. >>>> >>>> I am pulling my hair out trying to make a custom background work in >>>> Symphony. YooTheme says you can create a "styles" folder and override the >>>> CSS, but it doesn't work. >>>> >>>> As for the regular HTML overrides, like com_content and com_contact, I >>>> have noticed no or very little difference between the two. It is not a >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Donna Marie Vincent < >>>> donnamarievinc...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Are you speaking of template overrides? If so, which template are you >>>> using? I noticed on the Yootheme templates the template overrides were not >>>> where I was expecting them to be. This was a function of their warp >>>> system, not Joomla. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Helvécio da Silva <helvecio...@gmail.com> >>>> *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla@lists.nyphp.org> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2012 3:22 PM >>>> *Subject:* [joomla] How hard can it be to make an override? >>>> >>>> I just started a project where I needed to do some overrides. >>>> >>>> I've been doing this for years, as it was extremaly easy find the piece >>>> of HTML code I wanted to change, then do it, while keeping functions >>>> around. >>>> >>>> Now, with 2.5 it seems things have changed drastically. I cannot find >>>> the HTML as easy as I used to. Thus, it is impossible to change things to >>>> look like I want to. If this is true, Joomla won't be a flexible CMS as it >>>> was before because non-programmers WON'T know what and where to change. >>>> >>>> As I am NOT a programmer, I'm having a hard time with this issue, that >>>> I never had before. >>>> >>>> Geez... >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva >>>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio...@gmail.com >>>> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >>>> >>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>> >>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! 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Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > > > > -- > Stephen Britton > Technology Consultant > sbrit...@gmail.com > Twitter: @StephenBritton > ph: 914-661-0040 > > "Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself." - > George Bernard Shaw > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! 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