Richard, 

I am wondering whether it wouldn't make more sense to let the chairs judge the 
consensus call and to propose the next steps. They asked the question and I am 
sure they had a specific reason to frame the questions in that particular way. 

Ciao
Hannes

On Feb 9, 2013, at 1:11 AM, Richard Barnes wrote:

> We're 24 votes into the header criticality poll, so I thought I would go 
> ahead and take a look at how the results are shaping up.  My initial 
> tabulation is below.  The result on the FIRST POLL (the main one) is as 
> follows:
> 
> No: 10
> Yes: 14
> 
> What I find striking, however, is that every single person that voted "Yes" 
> on the FIRST POLL also voted "Yes" on the SECOND POLL.  So nobody who thinks 
> that all headers should be critical thinks that a JOSE library should 
> actually be required to enforce this constraint.  And that means that 
> enforcing that all headers are supported cannot be a MUST according to RFC 
> 2119.
> 
> So I wonder if there's consensus to remove the following text from JWE and 
> JWS:
> -----BEGIN-JWE-----
>    4.   The resulting JWE Header MUST be validated to only include
>         parameters and values whose syntax and semantics are both
>         understood and supported.
> -----END-JWE-----
> -----BEGIN-JWS-----
>    4.  The resulting JWS Header MUST be validated to only include
>        parameters and values whose syntax and semantics are both
>        understood and supported.
> -----END-JWS-----
> 
> Otherewise, a JOSE library conforming to these specifications would be 
> REQUIRED (a synonym to MUST in 2119) to reject a JWE/JWS that contains an 
> unknown header, contradicting all those "Yes" votes on the SECOND POLL.
> 
> --Richard
> 
> 
> 
> -----BEGIN-Tabulation-----
> 1       2       3    Name:           
> N       -       -    Bradley         
> N       -       -    Ito             
> N       N       A    Yee             
> N       N       B    Barnes          
> N       N       B    Rescorla        
> N       N       C    Manger          
> N       N       C    Octman          
> N       Y       A    Fletcher        
> N       Y       A    Miller          
> N       Y       A    Sakimura        
> Y       Y       -    D'Agostino      
> Y       Y       A    Biering         
> Y       Y       A    Brault          
> Y       Y       A    Hedberg         
> Y       Y       A    Jay             
> Y       Y       A    Jones           
> Y       Y       A    Marais          
> Y       Y       A    Nadalin         
> Y       Y       A    Nara            
> Y       Y       A    Nennker         
> Y       Y       A    Solberg         
> Y       Y       B    Hardt           
> Y       Y       B    Medeiros        
> Y       Y       C    Matake          
> Y       Y       C    Mishra    
> -----END-Tabulation-----
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