:)))
Sorry I forget to mention that my choice also is JRun... It�s true that
support is not perfect and you should keep asking your question but
most of the time you can find all answers into documentation, which is
very good.
dobry
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> What is a better server?
>
> Travis
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: Jeff Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 2000-11-15 19:27:31.0
> To: JRun-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: RE: Application server
>
> I would argue that JRun is not a good option from the stand point
> that it is
> pretty buggy and Allaire has a very unresponsive support and
> management
> team. A summary of the issues we have run into with JRun include:
>
> - The inability to disable JRun session cookies (a broken option that
> we
> twisted Allaire to fix in SP1)
> - Numerous bugs in the JMC that Allaire has failed to fix
> - Buggy code in sendCookie (sends an incorrect expiration time) that
> we
> found (by decompiling Allaire's code) and after several weeks of
> dealing
> with unresponsive support and management, got included in SP1.
> - An utter lack of response to the "Too Many Concurrent Requests"
> issue that
> left lots of people scrambling to migrate servlet containers.
> - More buggy code in sendCookie, where JRun pretty much rewrites all
> your
> http headers (Cache Control: no-cache="cookie1,cooke2" -- whatever
> the hell
> that means -- as well as forcing Connection: Close so we couldn't use
> keep
> alives). Allaire has said "we have no plans to fix this".
> - Bugs in certain forwarding under very specific circumstances where
> ioexceptions are thrown -- Allaire has said "we have no plans to fix
> this".
> - Bugs in certain forwarding under specific circumstances where your
> URL
> gets rewritten with "jsessionid=<pick_a_random_number>" on the end.
> This is
> obviously related to JRun's sesion code. Support guy's response when
> I
> reported this to him months ago was a sarcastic "no".... I showed
> him and
> he finally believed me. We have actually reported this twice and
> they (you
> guessed it) "have no plans to fix this". (Though they are _SURE_
> this is
> related to the "jsessionid" issue above, the ioexception issue as
> well as
> the issue below).
> - Miscellaneous Java Control Protocol errors that Allaire has given
> up on
> (we haven't heard from them in weeks even though we have THREE open
> bug
> reports -- with NO work arounds). They too seem to only happen
> rarely when
> forwarding.
>
> And that would be just the beginning... Keep in mind, you MUST
> either buy
> support or give them a credit card to even report bugs (your credit
> card
> won't be charged if you report a confirmed bug). It's a dumb policy
> considering we have called support dozens of times to work with
> Allaire on
> what has resulted in about a dozen bug reports. We have never needed
> any
> support from them other than to fix their bugs -- which they fail to
> do
> anyway. The moral here is DO NOT buy a support plan.
>
> Allaire is pretty lax about support in general. Their SLA of four
> hours for
> a call back and 5 days for either a patch, work around or escalation
> to
> management is BS.
>
> I'd definitely suggest other options! If you decide to go with JRun,
> check
> around the web on Allaire's JRun forum, this mailing list and any
> others you
> find. I think you'll find a lot of upset JRun users. Pardon the
> profanity,
> but there is an interesting thread here as well:
>
> http://www.fuckedcompany.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001676.html
>
> Now, with all this said, if you are just "playing around" with an app
> server, JRun is fine. If your app is not critical to your
> operations, JRun
> is fine. We have a request open with a JRun sales guy for some
> references
> (who uses JRun) and after many weekly email from him along the lines
> of
> "haven't forgotten you -- will call you later today) we have given
> up. The
> best "mission critical" example of JRun in production we have been
> given is
> EMC. Mmmm... As far as I know, if EMCs site goes down, they'll
> still sell
> just as much storage as if the had been up. I'm not saying there
> aren't
> amazons, yahoos and ebays running JRun but if there are, Allaire
> isn't using
> them as references.
>
> Feel free to email me if you have any more specific
> questions/concerns.
>
> -Jeff
>
>
>
>
> > > ANIL KRISHNANANDA wrote:
> > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > We are in the process of shopping for application server. We
> > > have ColdFusion implementation (version 4.5.1). We are looking
> > > for good JAVA J2EE support from application server.
> > > > Is Jrun is good choice with current implementation ?/ if so,
> > > explain why???
> > > >
> > > > We should be able to call JAVA components from ColdFusion
> > > tag(like CFSERVLET, CFOBJECT ..) Please advice regarding
> > > selecting app server ..
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Anil
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________________________
> > > > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
> > > > http://www.peoplepc.com
> > > >
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