We were using Tomcat for a while and it just fell apart on us after a while, and that
is why we switched to Allaire. So far it's been great. The only real problem that
we've had is that it locks up every once in a while, but a quick restart fixes it.
I know the new site made by the Hotmail founder uses Jrun as well (again started using
Tomcat).
Travis
---- Original Message ----
From: Dobromir Karamelsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 2000-11-16 15:40:34.0
To: JRun-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: RE: RE: Application server
Hmm I did the same research in the pass and find out that everyone is
pointing BEA WebLogic like the best one.. But also it's very heavy and
it's has so much features so it?s not very easy thing... You can also
check Oracle iAS, especially if you going to use Oracle as a backend.
Oracle is using Apache as a HTTP listener and JServ core so you can
check java.apache.org as well ....
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What is a better server?
>
> Travis
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: Jeff Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 2000-11-15 19:27:31.0
> To: JRun-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: RE: Application server
>
> I would argue that JRun is not a good option from the stand point
> that it is
> pretty buggy and Allaire has a very unresponsive support and
> management
> team. A summary of the issues we have run into with JRun include:
>
> - The inability to disable JRun session cookies (a broken option that
> we
> twisted Allaire to fix in SP1)
> - Numerous bugs in the JMC that Allaire has failed to fix
> - Buggy code in sendCookie (sends an incorrect expiration time) that
> we
> found (by decompiling Allaire's code) and after several weeks of
> dealing
> with unresponsive support and management, got included in SP1.
> - An utter lack of response to the "Too Many Concurrent Requests"
> issue that
> left lots of people scrambling to migrate servlet containers.
> - More buggy code in sendCookie, where JRun pretty much rewrites all
> your
> http headers (Cache Control: no-cache="cookie1,cooke2" -- whatever
> the hell
> that means -- as well as forcing Connection: Close so we couldn't use
> keep
> alives). Allaire has said "we have no plans to fix this".
> - Bugs in certain forwarding under very specific circumstances where
> ioexceptions are thrown -- Allaire has said "we have no plans to fix
> this".
> - Bugs in certain forwarding under specific circumstances where your
> URL
> gets rewritten with "jsessionid=<pick_a_random_number>" on the end.
> This is
> obviously related to JRun's sesion code. Support guy's response when
> I
> reported this to him months ago was a sarcastic "no".... I showed
> him and
> he finally believed me. We have actually reported this twice and
> they (you
> guessed it) "have no plans to fix this". (Though they are _SURE_
> this is
> related to the "jsessionid" issue above, the ioexception issue as
> well as
> the issue below).
> - Miscellaneous Java Control Protocol errors that Allaire has given
> up on
> (we haven't heard from them in weeks even though we have THREE open
> bug
> reports -- with NO work arounds). They too seem to only happen
> rarely when
> forwarding.
>
> And that would be just the beginning... Keep in mind, you MUST
> either buy
> support or give them a credit card to even report bugs (your credit
> card
> won't be charged if you report a confirmed bug). It's a dumb policy
> considering we have called support dozens of times to work with
> Allaire on
> what has resulted in about a dozen bug reports. We have never needed
> any
> support from them other than to fix their bugs -- which they fail to
> do
> anyway. The moral here is DO NOT buy a support plan.
>
> Allaire is pretty lax about support in general. Their SLA of four
> hours for
> a call back and 5 days for either a patch, work around or escalation
> to
> management is BS.
>
> I'd definitely suggest other options! If you decide to go with JRun,
> check
> around the web on Allaire's JRun forum, this mailing list and any
> others you
> find. I think you'll find a lot of upset JRun users. Pardon the
> profanity,
> but there is an interesting thread here as well:
>
> http://www.fuckedcompany.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001676.html
>
> Now, with all this said, if you are just "playing around" with an app
> server, JRun is fine. If your app is not critical to your
> operations, JRun
> is fine. We have a request open with a JRun sales guy for some
> references
> (who uses JRun) and after many weekly email from him along the lines
> of
> "haven't forgotten you -- will call you later today) we have given
> up. The
> best "mission critical" example of JRun in production we have been
> given is
> EMC. Mmmm... As far as I know, if EMCs site goes down, they'll
> still sell
> just as much storage as if the had been up. I'm not saying there
> aren't
> amazons, yahoos and ebays running JRun but if there are, Allaire
> isn't using
> them as references.
>
> Feel free to email me if you have any more specific
> questions/concerns.
>
> -Jeff
>
>
>
>
> > > ANIL KRISHNANANDA wrote:
> > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > We are in the process of shopping for application server. We
> > > have ColdFusion implementation (version 4.5.1). We are looking
> > > for good JAVA J2EE support from application server.
> > > > Is Jrun is good choice with current implementation ?/ if so,
> > > explain why???
> > > >
> > > > We should be able to call JAVA components from ColdFusion
> > > tag(like CFSERVLET, CFOBJECT ..) Please advice regarding
> > > selecting app server ..
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Anil
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________________________
> > > > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart.
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> > > >
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