it seems you dont have solution for my problem. I've
already read and tried distributed installation.

/amit

--- "Haseltine, Celeste" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Amit, 
> 
> First, since I've never done an installation of JRUN
> on one box and IIS on a
> different box, I couldn't advise you on how to set
> up JRUN to do this.  I
> did see an response earlier that refers to Chapter 4
> of the JRUN setup
> manual for distributed installation.  Perhaps going
> through the manual might
> help, but I've gathered that English is not your
> native language.  If your
> English reading comprehension skills are such that
> it would be very
> difficult and time consuming to try and glean what
> you need from the
> manuals, you may want to contact Allaire tech
> support and see if they will
> assist you.
> 
> I did note one thing in your email below.  You state
> that you want to
> separate the web server from the application server
> for security reasons.
> JRUN is a web server, and we have had no issues
> putting JRUN and IIS onto
> the same box.  Our firewall is BEFORE our box that
> contains the JRUN/IIS
> software, so I am confused as to what security
> issues you think you are
> exposing yourself to by putting JRUN and IIS
> together on the same box.  As
> long are your IIS/JRUN server is BEHIND your
> firewall, and you have a good
> firewall, then I don't see that you gain anything
> security wise by putting
> JRUN on a separate box from IIS.  But perhaps I am
> missing something.
> 
> One rule of thumb I have learned in this business,
> don't make your job
> harder than it has to be.  I would suggest
> re-evaluating your need to have
> JRUN server and IIS on separate boxes.  Also, if you
> are running a
> test/development server (as we are), you can install
> JRUN server on your
> test/development server without an additional
> license, as long as that test
> server is NOT publicly available.  In other words,
> it's only available to
> your development group to develop and test code on,
> and to no one else.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Celeste
> 
>   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:54 AM
> To: JRun-Talk
> Subject: Re: problem configuring JRUN with IIS
> 
> 
> hi Celeste,
> thanks for showing intrest and replying,
> you have exactly understood my problem. Yes i want
> to install iis on one box
> and JRUN on another box. So that web server will be
> isolated from app
> server. this design is made due to security reasone.
> in future probably
> we'll be putting firwall between webserver and
> appserver. can you suggest
> how to go about this???
> Okay if i install JRUN on iis server for JSP
> processing, in that case my
> problem gets solved but i need two licences for that
> . i dont want to go for
> this option.
> 
> /amit
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Haseltine, Celeste"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JRun-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:31 PM
> Subject: RE: problem configuring JRUN with IIS
> 
> 
> > Amit,
> >
> > If I understand your question correctly, you are
> trying to configure the
> > JRUN Server software, which is located on Box A,
> to "talk to" the IIS
> server
> > which is on Box B, is that correct?  These are
> actually two different
> > "boxes", i.e. two different computers/servers?
> >
> > If so, I've never done that type of configuration
> across a network.  I've
> > always put my JRUN server software on the same
> "box" as either my NT
> server
> > or my Windows 2000 server.  Theoretically, when a
> request for a jsp page
> > comes into IIS, IF you have configured JRUN to
> "talk with" IIS, IIS will
> > hand off any request for a *.jsp extension to
> JRUN, which in turn will
> > "serve up" the HTML page, and hand if back off to
> IIS which forwards it to
> > the browser.  Or at least that is my understanding
> of how JRUN and IIS
> work
> > together.  But again, I've always installed both
> IIS and JRUN server
> > together on the same box with either an NT server
> or a Windows 2000
> server,
> > I've never tried configuring the two across two
> different boxes.
> >
> > Why do you need to have JRUN on a different box
> than the one that IIS
> > resides on?  To my knowledge, if you are running
> ASP pages on the IIS box,
> > JRUN server's presence will not interfere with
> your ASP application or
> with
> > IIS ability to serve up the ASP pages.  Perhaps
> you are trying to work
> > around a problem that doesn't really exists by
> installing the software on
> > two different boxes?  JRUN does allow you to
> create other servers besides
> > the default and the admin servers within the JRUN
> management console.
> > Whenever I create a new project, I create a new
> "server" within the JRUN
> > admin console.  That sets up the directory
> structure for me.  In many
> cases,
> > I elect to have my new directory structure located
> under the InetPubs root
> > directory.  If you set up a new project/server
> correctly under the JRUN
> > admin console, the directory structure is created
> for you, so you don't
> need
> > to manually create a directory structure under
> either the <JRUN root dir>
> or
> > <InetPub root dir>.  In essence, this is a means
> of using a "virtual"
> > folder, but it keeps my applications separate,
> particularly if I have more
> > than application under development on a test
> server.
> >
> > Drop another line back to the listserver, and let
> us know exactly why you
> > need to set up JRUN on a different box than the
> one IIS resides on.  Or
> let
> > us know if I have misunderstood your question.
> >
> > Celeste
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Amit r [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:50 PM
> > To: JRun-Talk
> > Subject: Re: problem configuring JRUN with IIS
> >
> >
> > Hey this is becoming bit confusing.. so anyone
> from
> > you guys can explain me exact procedure of how to
> > configure JRUN with IIS 4.0/5.0
> > my IIS is on IP 10.0.1.42
> > and my JRUNserver is on 10.0.1.29
> >
> > what i mean to say is both are on physically
> diffrent
> > machines.
> > please, please dont tell me to refer JRUN setup
> guide.
> > i dont know but i feel its confusing.
> > also can anybody tell me whats the use of
> "Pathtran"
> > can it serve my purpose??
> > One question is comming into my mind is that ,
> > after succesful confuguration of iis and jrun, all
> JSP
> > and Html files are stored in c:\inetpub\wwwroot
> folder
> > of iis server. when request for html page will
> come
> > it'll be handled by iis, and when request for JSP
> will
> > come, IIS can not handle JSP's on its own and it
> is
> > redirected to JRUN server which is physically on
> > diffrent computer, so how my JSP get processed??
> > wheather it gets processed on IIS or on JRUN
> server?
> > where compiled java files will be stored??
> > normally these files are stored in web-inf\jsp
> folder
> >
> > please please help
> > you guys can guess how frustrated i am..
> > ;-)
> > /amit
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Mark Phelps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I didn't know you could do that, but I believe
> you.
> > > It seems confusing
> > > to me to place them there, however, since IIS
> cannot
> > > process them
> > > directly.  We use a different web server and
> > > platform so perhaps this is
> > > standard operating procedure when using JRun and
> IIS
> > > together on Windows.
> > >
> > > I would still recommend building your site in a
> web
> > > application
> > > directory structure and deploying it as a WAR
> file.
> > > We have found it a
> > > lot easier to maintain our site when it can be
> > > deployed or removed as a
> > > single entity.  It has been our habit to keep
> only
> > > static files in the
> > > web server's directory structure.
> > >
> > > If you can successfully put JSP files in the
> WWWROOT
> > > directory then
> > > Amit's problem is obviously something else.  I
> don't
> > > know enough about
> > > IIS to say where to look.
> > >
> > > Fishwick, Randall wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hmm, why do you say that?
> > > >
> > > >We've had jsp pages running out of wwwroot on
> an
> > > IIS 5 server performing
> > > >database queries and updates against an Oracle
> > > database for over a year
> > > >without fail.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Mark Phelps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:49 PM
> > > >To: JRun-Talk
> > > >Subject: Re: problem configuring JRUN with IIS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Yes, JSP files should not be placed in the
> wwwroot
> > > directory of IIS.
> > > > JSP files should be maintained in web
> application
> > > directory structures
> > > >under the <JRun Root DIR>\servers\default
> > > directory.  When a request for
> > > >a regular HTML file is received IIS should
> handle
> > > it directly, serving
> > > >the file up from the wwwroot directory
> structure.
> > > When a request comes
> > > >in for a JSP file, IIS will forward the request
> to
> > > JRun which will
> > > >process the appropriate JSP file in its
> directory
> > > structure and respond
> > > >accordingly.
> > > >
> > > >Amit r wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>i'm using JRUN 3.1 on windows NT and IIS 4.0
> > > >>steps i followed are as under
> > > >>
> > > >>first i installed jrun on my webserver(iis)
> and
> > > >>configured JRUN/IIS using Connector wizard.
> and it
> > > was
> > > >>done properly. (this step is given in
> setup.pdf
> > > page
> > > >>no 172 simple distributed installation)
> > > >>
> > > >>then i installed JRUn on another PC that is my
> app
> > > >>server (diff from iis) now i want to configure
> iis
> > > >>with this JRUn. so i go to JMC and run
> connector
> > > >>wizard. in JRUN server IP address field o
> > > connector
> > > >>wizard i put IP address of the machine on
> which
> > > JRUn
> > > >>is installed. and JMC gives me message that
> > > >>configuration is done successfully.
> > > >>now for testing purpose i'm stopping JRUN on
> IIS
> > > >>server and i'm accesing http://webserver and i
> get
> > > >>default.asp of iis. now i put a.jsp (simple
> JSP
> > > page)
> > > >>in wwwroot of iis nad now try to access it
> that
> > > time
> > > >>it gives me could not connect to JRUn server.
> > > >>
> > > >>please guide me where i'm going wrong..
> > > >>
> > > >>can anybody tell me wheather i have to keep
> all my
> > > >>jsps on JRUN server instead of IIS servers
> > > >>c:\inetpub\wwwroot directory
> > > >>
> > > >>help needed badly
> > > >>
> > > >>/amit
> > > >>
> > >
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