Hey Celeste-

The main reason in my opinion is simply development time. It takes such a
ridiculous fraction of time to develop applications using CF vs. Java that I
personally can't see why anyone would do it another way. When CF wasn't in
J2EE, it could have been argued that CF wasn't low level enough to give a
programmer full control, but the MX version eliminates that by 1) allowing
for full J2EE integration and 2) creating a new construct called ColdFusion
Components (CFCs) to allow for method/function sharing. ColdFusion handles
database connection pooling, has a built-in index (Verity), has tag-based
graphing capabilities (bar diagrams, etc.), easy Web services support, etc.
etc. etc. With an application framework and more, CFML goes way beyond what
can be done using JSP custom tags (did I mention you can use any JSP custom
tag in your CF files...)

Working with Flash is easier, too. I just developed a real-time cattle
auction using Flash Remoting and the Flash Communication Server. I spent
about 4 hours writing a JavaBean to be called on remotely by Flash, still
not being able to get it to work properly, I decided to try CF and built it
in literally 5 minutes.

There's more, but this is the gist.

-Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Haseltine, Celeste [mailto:CHaseltine@;magticket.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:31 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX/J2EE


Drew,

I'm not a CF developer, nor am I very familiar with CF, other than knowing
that it is a proprietary tag language based on Java/JSP/Servlets.  I'm a
J2EE/C++ developer and software architect.  But I am curious as to the
business reasons why I would want to develop an application using both CF
and J2EE, inclusive of EJB's.  Why not do the whole thing in J2EE using many
of the "free" tag libraries that are available?  I've seen more of this type
of approach being covered in discussion threads out on the web, but they are
technical discussions only.  Is there a business reason (i.e. cost savings
in development time/manpower/salary, savings in maintenance over life of
product, etc) for taking such an approach that you have seen/experienced?
As an architect, I have to take both the business and the technical reasons
into consideration when designing a new project and coming up with the
Project Schedule/budget/manpower forcasts.

Thanks in advance for any comments/past experiences that you can share.

Celeste Haseltine, PE
MTL, Inc
Dallas, TX


-----Original Message-----
From: Drew Falkman [mailto:drew@;drewfalkman.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:02 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: CFMX/J2EE


Hey all-

I just wanted to let you all know that our new book on CFMX/J2EE integration
is out. It is part of Ben Forta's Reality ColdFusion series, so includes 5
different application and goes through the process of creating each -
allowing the reader to understand the process behind the application and why
we used J2EE where we did. Plus you get 5 fully functional apps: a portal,
CRM app, B2B exchange, e-commerce (with EJBs) and an XML content syndication
engine.

If you are interested go to http://www.forta.com/books/0321129482/ or
contact me directly.

Hope all is going well with everyone.

Thanks,

Drew Falkman
Veraison, LLC
http://www.drewfalkman.com



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