Fort is pretty funny. I can't imagine anyone who grew up in the USA being able to say Apache Fort. I'm sure it would always come out as Fort Apache.

I like Alcatraz best among the recent suggestions. (I think it is unfortunate that JSecurity is being abandoned.)

Paul Fremantle wrote:
Did we consider Fort?
(instead of Knox!)

Paul

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I like Alcatraz and Satrap. I really don't like the others, but its subjective.

Paul

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Jeremy Haile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yeah, something about Satrap feels softer and a little harder to say than
some of the others.

My current take on things:

Knox - good, but with a silent K people could be confused and type things
like "nox" or "knocks"

Alcatraz - my favorite, recognizable name, stands for something that is
impenetrable/super secure, good alphabetical location, has a hard/firm sound
to the name which I like

Lockdown - not bad, but kind of generic sounding

ServeAndProtect - wordy, don't like the word "and" in the name - especially
when typing domain names.

Nobu - not sure I understand this one, has no inherit meaning (at least to
me), don't like

Satrap - I loved the story/meaning behind it, but I don't like the way it
sounds.  Also less inherently meaningful to the general populace than
Alcatraz.  I feel like if I saw Apache Satrap vs Apache Alcatraz, the latter
immediately makes me think of rock-solid security and sounds "cooler"

Just my 2 cents,
Jeremy

On Nov 25, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:

I don't mean to be a downer, but I really don't like Satrap.  I think
the reasoning behind it is fantastic, but to me at least, it just
doesn't roll off the tongue.  It sounds very abrubt and almost harsh.

Also, maybe worth noting, that name is very hard to pronounce for many
non-native English speakers, especially for Asians.  The r is hard to
form after t's, and the final p is usually silent, at least when
speaking quickly.  Just sounds off to me for some reason :(

Again, this is just my personal take on it.  Feel free to disagree :)

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
On Nov 25, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:

Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
So far we have

Knox
Alcatraz
Lockdown
ServeAndProtect
Nobu


Are their any other candidates?
After some name picking with Alan today (we tested many names on IM,
playing with the idea of secure, api, apache, stuff like that), we
checked
names like asapi (M$ owned), secapi (CA owned), Giuseppe, apasapi, JSAPI
(but it's already Java Speach API), we arrived to something cool :

Satrap.

It's a common name, so we won't be sued for using it, it means
"protector
of a province" from the ancient greek xšaθra ("realm" or "province") and
pāvā ("protector"). Realm Protector, isn't that cool ?

Some more here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satrap

And the coolest : it's short, and easy to remember...
Lot's of good discussion.  I think we should call up a vote on this
sometime
next week.


Regards,
Alan



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