I'd like to get a definitive answer here, just to ensure this is
absolutely mandatory:
Is it a _requirement_ by the ASF that we change the name? Because if
its not, and we can somehow skirt by it, my first choice would be to
keep the name the same...
How can we tell definitively?
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Brad Whitaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fort is pretty funny. I can't imagine anyone who grew up in the USA being
> able to say Apache Fort. I'm sure it would always come out as Fort Apache.
>
> I like Alcatraz best among the recent suggestions. (I think it is
> unfortunate that JSecurity is being abandoned.)
>
> Paul Fremantle wrote:
>>
>> Did we consider Fort?
>> (instead of Knox!)
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I like Alcatraz and Satrap. I really don't like the others, but its
>>> subjective.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Jeremy Haile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, something about Satrap feels softer and a little harder to say
>>>> than
>>>> some of the others.
>>>>
>>>> My current take on things:
>>>>
>>>> Knox - good, but with a silent K people could be confused and type
>>>> things
>>>> like "nox" or "knocks"
>>>>
>>>> Alcatraz - my favorite, recognizable name, stands for something that is
>>>> impenetrable/super secure, good alphabetical location, has a hard/firm
>>>> sound
>>>> to the name which I like
>>>>
>>>> Lockdown - not bad, but kind of generic sounding
>>>>
>>>> ServeAndProtect - wordy, don't like the word "and" in the name -
>>>> especially
>>>> when typing domain names.
>>>>
>>>> Nobu - not sure I understand this one, has no inherit meaning (at least
>>>> to
>>>> me), don't like
>>>>
>>>> Satrap - I loved the story/meaning behind it, but I don't like the way
>>>> it
>>>> sounds. Also less inherently meaningful to the general populace than
>>>> Alcatraz. I feel like if I saw Apache Satrap vs Apache Alcatraz, the
>>>> latter
>>>> immediately makes me think of rock-solid security and sounds "cooler"
>>>>
>>>> Just my 2 cents,
>>>> Jeremy
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 25, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't mean to be a downer, but I really don't like Satrap. I think
>>>>> the reasoning behind it is fantastic, but to me at least, it just
>>>>> doesn't roll off the tongue. It sounds very abrubt and almost harsh.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, maybe worth noting, that name is very hard to pronounce for many
>>>>> non-native English speakers, especially for Asians. The r is hard to
>>>>> form after t's, and the final p is usually silent, at least when
>>>>> speaking quickly. Just sounds off to me for some reason :(
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, this is just my personal take on it. Feel free to disagree :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 25, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So far we have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Knox
>>>>>>>> Alcatraz
>>>>>>>> Lockdown
>>>>>>>> ServeAndProtect
>>>>>>>> Nobu
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are their any other candidates?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After some name picking with Alan today (we tested many names on IM,
>>>>>>> playing with the idea of secure, api, apache, stuff like that), we
>>>>>>> checked
>>>>>>> names like asapi (M$ owned), secapi (CA owned), Giuseppe, apasapi,
>>>>>>> JSAPI
>>>>>>> (but it's already Java Speach API), we arrived to something cool :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Satrap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a common name, so we won't be sued for using it, it means
>>>>>>> "protector
>>>>>>> of a province" from the ancient greek xšaθra ("realm" or "province")
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> pāvā ("protector"). Realm Protector, isn't that cool ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some more here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satrap
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the coolest : it's short, and easy to remember...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lot's of good discussion. I think we should call up a vote on this
>>>>>> sometime
>>>>>> next week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul Fremantle
>>> Co-Founder and CTO, WSO2
>>> Apache Synapse PMC Chair
>>> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
>>>
>>> blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
>>>
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