Ok, cool - thanks for the clarification.  I just updated the report
again to include both points.

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Jan 11, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>
>> Paul Fremantle is listed as one of our mentors on the JSecurity
>> Proposal.  He just didn't vote.
>
> Ahh, ok.  Then it's more accurate to also state that one mentor did not
> vote.
>
>> I didn't mention the multiple build systems because I was unsure if
>> that issue came to consensus or not.  I stated that I didn't mind if
>> both were in place, but then someone raised the issue as to what would
>> be the 'formal' one that would be used for releases, and how we would
>> maintain both, and I don't think that was ever answered or resolved
>> among the team members.  I just wasn't clear enough as to what to
>> became of that discussion :/
>
> The builds are not that complicated.  Any one would do.  For publication to
> the Maven repository I imagine we would use the maven build system.
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> "3 of the 5 project mentors ..." should read "Three of four project
>>> mentors
>>> ..."
>>>
>>> You neglected to mention that we would have both ant and maven build
>>> systems
>>> in place.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just updated the report - please lemme know if that is OK.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>
>>>> Les
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Les Hazlewood <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Emmanuel,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks very much for the feedback - I appreciate it a lot.  I'll
>>>>> adjust accordingly and re-notify so we can review again.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) About the name, I would suggest we just keep  the matter open, as
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> IPMC members are stepping in. Right now, the vote is closed and the
>>>>>> result
>>>>>> is not positive, but (1) I don't think it was a good idea to vote such
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> item [1] and (2) I'm not sure I won't cast my vote in another
>>>>>> direction
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> Juniper is not considered as a risk or if Juniper legals just let us
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> JSecurity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gotcha.   I'll revise that section to say it is still open at the
>>>>> moment.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) You have to mention that Alex Karasulu has stepped down as a
>>>>>> mentor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah yes, thanks.  I'll add that as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise, it's a pretty good report. We have one more day for other
>>>>>> comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] The reason I think it was not a good idea to vote is that if we
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> trying to solve an issue, but to determinate if there is an IP issue.
>>>>>> No
>>>>>> matter if you get all the -1 needed to keep JSecurity name, you may
>>>>>> still be
>>>>>> forced to change the name if The ASF get sued and lose.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds good.  It is very helpful to learn when would be a good time to
>>>>> vote vs when to let discussion continue.  This was a great learning
>>>>> experience for me, and is one of the great things the Incubator
>>>>> affords us.  Thanks :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Les
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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