Hey
1st of all - i didn't mention this as a rule - I just asked why it wasn't
used
I perssonaly do not "auto mute", but I do skip code snippets. The reason is
that my mail client (gmail) usually breaks the formatting, so it's much
harder to read.
Also, long code snippets usually have 1 or 2 breaking points, so reading the
entire code to find them is much more work than simply running them
lastly, by copy-pasting the code, I can't be sure I'm using it the way it
was intended.
By writing a fiddle - you say - this is my problem - check it. JSFiddle is
quite stable, and from conversations with the author (via the mootools list)
I can assure you it is meant to be used specifically for this design, and is
meant to stay (if you are concerned that they fiddles won't be here a year
from now when someone will find the list).
I find the use of jsfiddle helps clean up the discussion considerably.
Its branching model and updating model also helps a lot with explanations.

So yes - when I see a very long message with a ton of code, when I'm on a
good mood - I'll fiddle it (like I did on the previous discussion), When I'm
occupied, I'll often skip it.

BTW - if any of you find other tools more comfortable - like jsbin - that's
fine too, my point is t separate code from message

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Stefan Weiss <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 24.01.2011 16:42, Andraž Kos wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 13:50, Stefan Weiss<[email protected]<mailto:
>> [email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     Why should I use an external site like JSFiddle when a question can be
>>>    answered right here on the mailing list?
>>>
>>
>> Reason which most of us simply don't even bother explaining:
>>
>> We auto mute (ignore the thread) and never see the conversations that
>> don't
>> include the JSFiddle link in the first post. And if we don't read it, then
>> we
>> won't answer and help either.
>>
>
> I'm not sure if I'm reading you correctly...
>
> Are you saying that "most of us" on this list will ignore questions or
> announcements without a JSFiddle link, and that this is so obvious that
> people won't even bother to explain? I've been subscribed on this list since
> October 14th, and I haven't seen any mention of this policy either here or
> on the jsmentors.com homepage. We had some problems with lost messages for
> a while, so I guess I may have missed it, but from what reached my inbox,
> I'm counting five threads where the OP used a JSFiddle link in his message;
> three of them were started by you.
>
> I don't have anything against JSFiddle. I will use it when I feel it could
> improve communication. On the other hand, when my reply contains five lines
> of code (as in the current case), I may decide to post them inline. Which
> also has the added bonus of keeping the code and the discussion together,
> instead of relying on the availability of a third-party website.
>
> Arieh mentioned that JSFiddle is a requirement on other mailing lists. If,
> as you say, this is also true for the JSMentors list, this should be
> mentioned in the mailing list rules.
>
>
> regards,
> stefan
>
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