>>I highly suggest you first pass the HTML through a validator. The
>>DOCTYPE is not recognized because of "PUBliC"...
*sigh*, I'll get there one of these days...a validation mistake is
really embarrassing. Thanks again for the feedback.

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Diego Perini <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Nathan Sweet <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Okay I found some interesting failures. If you want to have a look see
> again
> > (http://nathansweet.me/queryselectorall-rundown). The general sibling
> > selector, ie tilde, ie "~", fails to return. The matches selector fails
> on
>
> Also there are no "ol" elements inside "div" in that page, the general
> sibling selector fails for that reason.
>
> The other two failure you have in that test page are probably false
> positive too, the ":checked" attribute is to test live state of the
> checkbox not it's attribute value. For that use "#checkbox[checked]"
> and please use "checked" as value not "yes".
>
> I highly suggest you first pass the HTML through a validator. The
> DOCTYPE is not recognized because of "PUBliC"...
>
> --
> Diego
>
>
> > the first call for me, I'm going to try some others. This is the last
> you'll
> > hear from me for a while on the subject until I have a whole test suite
> > going and I'm sure my selectors are failing for the right reasons.
> >
> > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Diego Perini <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Nathan Sweet <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>The only selector string failing in your tests is the ".1st-p" which
> >> >>>correctly fails since the class name does not correspond to a valid
> >> >>>identifier.
> >> > Fixed. Thanks for the heads up.
> >> > TOALL:
> >> > Doesn't anybody know of any interesting failures with qSA? I'm not
> >> > saying it
> >> > to be smug, I can't find any. I'm sure that it fails on some pseudos.
> >>
> >>
> >> Nathan,
> >> I am sure I don't cover everything in my feature testing but the block
> >> of code handling that in NWMatcher could be a start, it is commented
> >> and includes external links to related readings:
> >>
> >>
> https://github.com/dperini/nwmatcher/blob/master/src/nwmatcher.js#L328
> >>
> >> that block is specific for bugs related to the "querySelectorAll"
> >> method. You should probably expect the same bugs be present in the
> >> "querySelector" method.
> >>
> >> One very annoying bug is in the Webkit/Chrome implementation of the
> >> "matchesSelector" method (WebkitMatchesSelector), the problem seems to
> >> be that first call return correct results while second and further
> >> calls will return incorrect results. This bug happens with indexed
> >> structural pseudo-classes like ":nth-child()", see this bug for more
> >> informations and a small test:
> >>
> >>    http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=78266
> >>
> >> Hope this gives you enough material to start with ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Diego
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Diego Perini <[email protected]
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Nathan,
> >> >> the "querySelectorAll" method exists also on IE 8 in Standard Mode.
> >> >>
> >> >> In all IE versions < 9 there are problem with the "Universal
> selector"
> >> >> since their API methods returns text nodes included in the result
> set.
> >> >> This is not only a problem with "querySelectorAll", in fact on IE < 9
> >> >> also "getElementsByTagName" has the same problems with text nodes.
> >> >>
> >> >> There are several other bugs in IE < 9 related to elements selection
> >> >> API. The baseline for IE is that after retrieving the NodeList one
> >> >> need to go through it members discarding text nodes, comments and
> >> >> invalid elements.
> >> >>
> >> >> The conditional I prefer to use to filter appropriate nodes from the
> >> >> list
> >> >> is:
> >> >>
> >> >>    if (element.nodeName > '@') {
> >> >>      .... // it is an Element node
> >> >>    }
> >> >>
> >> >> also the standard one is:
> >> >>
> >> >>    if (element.nodeType == 1) {
> >> >>      .... // it is an Element node
> >> >>    }
> >> >>
> >> >> I prefer the first since it also helps discard fake "closed tags"
> >> >> elements for non recognized HTML5 elements, for example:
> >> >>
> >> >>    <abbr>NYC</abbr>
> >> >>
> >> >> could be recognized as two elements in some IE version <= 8, the
> first
> >> >> is the open tag "abbr", the second is the close tag "/abbr" which
> >> >> tagName/nodeName starts with a slash.
> >> >>
> >> >> The only selector string failing in your tests is the ".1st-p" which
> >> >> correctly fails since the class name does not correspond to a valid
> >> >> identifier.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Diego
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Nathan Sweet <
> [email protected]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>Whats the difference in Chrome, FF? nodelist is non-live in all of
> >> >> >>> them.
> >> >> > When I said unlike the others I meant the other IE versions, not
> the
> >> >> > other
> >> >> > browsers, my bad :
> >> >> > It's kind of a moot point anyways, if it was implemented in <IE9
> then
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > might have been implemented correctly. What I was referring to is
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > <IE9 a lot of the selectors return nodelists that
> >> >> > include intermittent
> >> >> > text
> >> >> > nodes for the empty spaces, whereas other browsers don't do that. I
> >> >> > was
> >> >> > referring to this particular quirk in <IE9, which prevents
> >> >> > Array.prototype.slice.call from being cross-browser friendly for
> node
> >> >> > lists
> >> >> > for certain selector methods. Someone once told me that some
> >> >> > libraries
> >> >> > remove all the white space between elements, but I don't actually
> see
> >> >> > how
> >> >> > that could help as a spaced out innerHTML assignment could easily
> >> >> > foul
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > up.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Andrew Dodson
> >> >> > <[email protected]>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Isn't that what its supposed
> >> >> >> to http://www.w3.org/TR/selectors-api/#nodeselector
> >> >> >> Whats the difference in Chrome, FF? nodelist is non-live in all of
> >> >> >> them.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Nathan Sweet
> >> >> >> <[email protected]>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I meant <IE9, IE9 also only returns elements in its nodelists,
> >> >> >>> unlike
> >> >> >>> the
> >> >> >>> others.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Andrew Dodson
> >> >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> querySelectorAll is enabled in IE9, checkout "ie9 testdrive".
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On 28 May 2011 19:50, "nathanJsweet" <[email protected]>
> >> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> So I've been messing around with querySelectorAll. I've
> published
> >> >> >>>> a blog post about it which can be found at "nathansweet.me/
> >> >> >>>> queryselectorall",
> >> >> >>>> though I'm not really plugging the post, which actually doesn't
> >> >> >>>> have
> >> >> >>>> so
> >> >> >>>> much information concerning the method as it does a link to a
> page
> >> >> >>>> I've created that tests the method.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> I'm asking anybody in this group who is interested take a look
> >> >> >>>> at this page (it can be found at "
> nathansweet.me/queryselectorall-
> >> >> >>>> rundown")
> >> >> >>>> and email me, respond to this post, or comment on the blog post
> >> >> >>>> any
> >> >> >>>> other selector ideas they can come up with. My goal would be to
> >> >> >>>> come
> >> >> >>>> up with an exhaustive list of selectors that I could then run
> >> >> >>>> through
> >> >> >>>> a multitude of browsers (I would, of course, share the results).
> >> >> >>>> I've
> >> >> >>>> already come up with some interesting failures that shouldn't be
> >> >> >>>> occurring,
> >> >> >>>> and I'm also interested to hear from people who've worked with
> the
> >> >> >>>> method extensively.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Also am I wrong in thinking that since querySelectorAll isn't
> >> >> >>>> implemented in IE
> >> >> >>>> that it will always return only elements? Thus, is it safe to do
> >> >> >>>> Array.prototype.slice.call
> >> >> >>>> on any nodelist returned by querySelectorAll? I haven't thought
> of
> >> >> >>>> a
> >> >> >>>> case yet where
> >> >> >>>> this wouldn't be a bad idea, let me know.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Also, if nobody helps it's no big deal, as I will be adding
> >> >> >>>> selectors
> >> >> >>>> to it over the coming weeks,
> >> >> >>>> so if you're into bookmarking it might be worth coming back for
> a
> >> >> >>>> second or third look.
> >> >> >>>>
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