You folks advocating against starting with jQuery, did you learn to program in assembler? Do you understand what's going on at the register level and know that your code is as efficient as possible? If not, what's the difference?
I would wager that a vast majority of "experts" today learned a high level abstraction first, then decided to dig deeper. At the end of the day, jQuery is just a high level abstraction over the DOM (for the most part). Sure, there are folks who don't care and will never take the opportunity to learn, but I'm betting that we have a *ton* more JS expertise now simply due to jQuery (and the other libs) making frond-end development more approachable. Telling people not to use it when starting out sounds like "I don't care if it would lead to more total expertise in the field, I just don't want to have to deal with all the riff raff." _jason On Nov 8, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Rohit Mehta <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks :-) sent via Android On Nov 8, 2011 10:21 PM, "kik" <[email protected]> wrote: > Amit is right. -1 for JQuery. Start with the basics and stay far away from > 3rd party software. Write your own code. Extend it until you realize what > mess you made - then start over and rewrite it all. > Learning is best done by making mistakes - it should not scare you. One of > my favourite sayings: > > "Don't be afraid to try new things. Remember, amateurs built the ark, > experts built the Titanic." > > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Amit Agarwal <[email protected]> wrote: > >> -1 to jQuery. Libraries make developers lazy. >> >> -Amit >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Jason weng <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> So, you can learn start from jQuery.<330.gif><330.gif><330.gif>, i think >>> jQuery is enough for UI purpose. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards >>> --------------------------------- >>> 翁建 (jason weng) >>> Web designer, The Plant Co., Ltd. >>> >>> http://theplant.jp >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Rohit Mehta <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry, Shoulld have mentioned.. I am an Interaction Designer and need >>>> to learn for UI purpose >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Anatoly Geyfman <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Love the Garden, haven't come across it before, thanks for the link. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Anatoly Geyfman >>>>> http://www.geyfman.net >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, November 3, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Jake Verbaten wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Read >>>>> >>>>> - the garden <http://bonsaiden.github.com/JavaScript-Garden/> >>>>> - the good parts <http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596517748.do> >>>>> >>>>> Learn about node.js <http://nodejs.org/> then just write code, write >>>>> more code, write more code. Write entire web applications using only >>>>> javascript. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Rohit Mehta >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What would be the best way to explore and learn advanced level JS? I >>>>> know the basic..but need to go to the next level. Can anyone please >>>>> guide me? Need help. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> To view archived discussions from the original JSMentors Mailman list: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>> >>>>> To search via a non-Google archive, visit here: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> To view archived discussions from the original JSMentors Mailman list: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>> >>>>> To search via a non-Google archive, visit here: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> To view archived discussions from the original JSMentors Mailman list: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>> >>>>> To search via a non-Google archive, visit here: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> *Rohit Mehta* >>>> Interaction Designer >>>> +91 98235 17361 >>>> >>>> http://in.linkedin.com/in/rohitrmehta >>>> www.twitter.com/rohitrmehta >>>> >>>> -- >>>> To view archived discussions from the original JSMentors Mailman list: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> >>>> To search via a non-Google archive, visit here: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> To view archived discussions from the original JSMentors Mailman list: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> >>> To search via a non-Google archive, visit here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> >> >> -- >> To view archived discussions from the original JSMentors Mailman list: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> To search via a non-Google archive, visit here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> > > -- > To view archived discussions from the original JSMentors Mailman list: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > To search via a non-Google archive, visit here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > -- To view archived discussions from the original JSMentors Mailman list: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ To search via a non-Google archive, visit here: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] -- To view archived discussions from the original JSMentors Mailman list: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ To search via a non-Google archive, visit here: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]
