They are the same so, it doesn't matter really. Unless, you need to be able to automate all 6 bands in which case, you would use the Sonitus EQ.
Regards, Phil Muir Accessibility Training Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK +44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> URL: http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andy B. Sent: 10 July 2010 11:47 To: 'joe'; 'JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list' Subject: Re: [Jsonar] How to tell what frequency range on a band audio is in. Would you use the track eq or use sonitus eq? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 5:10 AM To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list Subject: Re: [Jsonar] How to tell what frequency range on a band audio is in. Also Andy, don't get too caught up in the numbers, that comes later, learn how to get the sound you like then worry about the maths of it all, As Chriss says just experiment with a full range sound like a complete mix and pull different frequencies in and out, you'll hear the difference and then next time when you've a mix problem you'll have the beginnings of the anser before you touch a thing. with sonar, import some auido in to a track, then open up your track eq, then say set the db amout to something quite high say plus 12 or minus 12 then move the frequency around you'll soon hear what's going on. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <[email protected]> To: "JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [Jsonar] How to tell what frequency range on a band audio is in. > No Andy, it's called ability, training and talent 'grin'. > > Just like people can see colors and differences, ;your ear can hear > different frequencies, or some folks can. > > If you have any ability there, you can train ;your ears by practice to > hear them. > > Working with a parametric and or graphic eq, you can find offending > frequencies and taylor them to fit better, or enhance others to be > more prominent, etc. > > This is what an engineer does, and your exactly right, making > instruments and vocals sit in a mix with proper eq is one of the very > fundamentals of getting a great sound. > > I'll give you a hint. > > Equalizers work better on cut than boost, that is they are better at > pulling out too much of a bad frequency than they are at boosting not > enough of frequencies you want. > > so when you are first using an eq, you should do as much as you can to > eliminate the bad stuff. > > Try first with a simple tool like a 10 band graphic, rather than a > parametric, parametrics can be tricky, and are more advanced, but take > a broad band signal like a full mix or even just a vocal and pull > down different bands, and see what effect it has on them. > > here are more hints, and we'll ;use a vocal for an example because > it's one of the most troublesome things to eq right. > > Most anything below 100 hertz on a vocal won't be heard, maybe some > subtle harmonic re-enforcement but that's all, and probably a lot of > noise down there, depending on your gear and room. > > From 100 to 350 are your low mids, the warmth in your vocal, but can > also be where the mud is, so cutting this down can make your vocal > stand out more, from 500 to 2k is the mid band, that's your telephone > effect, but also some of your mid band clarity, and needs special > attention. > > From 3k to 6 k is your vocal definition and clarity, but can also make > it harsh, and also have some sibalance s sounds, especially around the > 6k range, so using a d s compressor can help a lot, I like a bright > vocal to stand out in a mix, but then when i get it bright enough, i > get too much sibalance, so the d s procesing fixes it. > > An;ything above 8k is what we call air, or high shimmer, and can make > a vocal sound bigger and more full, open, but can also add hiss, and > also in > the lower range of the 8 to 10k is also where some s sibalance lives > too, so care must be taken. > > A basic 10 band graphic eq will give you a basic handle on these > frequencies and what they do, then ;you can get in to the wonder full > world of parametric eq and deal with q or width, shelves, peak dip or > band > pass, and high pass and low pass and all those goodies, you > really get to do microscopic surgery then 'grin'. > > I of course am available for low priced friendly tutoring any time, > I'm jus the guy for good value for not so deep pockets, and nothing > beats years of experience and lots of great mixes under the belt. > > > > > > At 03:59 PM 7/9/2010, you wrote: >>Hi. >> >>I am reading a book that mentions that different types of audio, >>mainly musical instruments and vocals sit in a particular frequency >>range on an eq band. My question is: How do you tell what the actual >>frequency range of an audio clip is in? I.E. I drop an audio >>clip/track into Sonar (8.5.3). Now, before I change the frequency >>ranges on it, how can I tell what its actual range happens to be? 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