That's what the book I'm reading said too. Maybe I should be writing down
notes as I go along.... It is quite a detailed book. Anybody have any ideas
on what I can keep my notes in? That way they are all in the same place...

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Chris Belle
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 1:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [Jsonar] How to tell what frequency range on a band audio is
in.


No Andy, it's called ability, training and talent 'grin'.

Just like people can see colors and differences, ;your ear can hear 
different frequencies, or some folks can.

If you have any ability there, you can train ;your ears by practice 
to hear them.

Working with a parametric and or graphic eq, you can find offending 
frequencies and taylor them to fit better, or enhance others to be 
more prominent, etc.

This is what an engineer does, and your exactly right, making 
instruments and vocals sit in a mix with proper eq is one of the very 
fundamentals of getting a great sound.

I'll give you a hint.

Equalizers work better on cut than boost, that is they are better at 
pulling out too much of a bad frequency than they are at boosting not 
enough of frequencies you want.

so when you are first using an eq, you should do as much as you can 
to eliminate the bad stuff.

Try first with a simple tool like a 10 band graphic, rather than a 
parametric, parametrics can be tricky, and are more advanced, but take a
broad band signal like a full mix or even just a vocal and 
pull down different bands, and see what effect it has on them.

here are more hints, and we'll ;use a vocal for an example because 
it's one of the most troublesome things to eq right.

Most anything below 100 hertz on a vocal won't be heard, maybe some 
subtle harmonic re-enforcement but that's all, and probably a lot of 
noise down there, depending on your gear and room.

 From 100 to 350 are your low mids, the warmth in your vocal, but can also
be where the mud is, so cutting this down can make your 
vocal stand out more, from 500 to 2k is the mid band, that's your 
telephone effect, but also some of your mid band clarity, and needs 
special attention.

 From 3k to 6 k is your vocal definition and clarity, but can also 
make it harsh,
and also have some sibalance s sounds, especially around the 6k 
range, so using a d s compressor can help a lot, I like a bright 
vocal to stand out in a mix, but then when i get it bright enough, i 
get too much sibalance, so the d s procesing fixes it.

An;ything above 8k is what we call air, or high shimmer, and can make 
a vocal sound bigger and more full, open, but can also add hiss, and 
also in the lower range of the 8 to 10k is also where some s 
sibalance lives too, so care must be taken.

A basic 10 band graphic eq will give you a basic handle on these 
frequencies and what they do, then ;you can get in to the wonder full 
world of parametric eq and deal with q or width, shelves, peak dip or 
band pass, and high pass and low           pass and all those 
goodies, you really get to do microscopic surgery then 'grin'.

I of course am available for low priced friendly tutoring any time, I'm jus
the guy for good value for not so deep pockets, and nothing 
beats years of experience and lots of great mixes under the belt.





At 03:59 PM 7/9/2010, you wrote:
>Hi.
>
>I am reading a book that mentions that different types of audio,
>mainly musical instruments and vocals sit in a particular frequency 
>range on an eq band. My question is: How do you tell what the actual 
>frequency range of an audio clip is in? I.E. I drop an audio 
>clip/track into Sonar (8.5.3). Now, before I change the frequency 
>ranges on it, how can I tell what its actual range happens to be? Or 
>is this just some guesswork?
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