I would suggest that perhaps the biggest thing slowing down the current jsp
process is that Sun never defines a spec and publishes it by itself... there
is always a spec and implementation published together.  This is guaranteed
to be slower than just defining a spec.

Of course, it could easily be argued that Sun wouldn't get decent feedback
from developers unless they include an implementation of the spec...

Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Stockwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 9:41 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [noise] OpenSource JSP (was: SJSP and Apache/JServ)
>
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Engber [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >
> >   I agree with most of what you said, and I think everyone
> would have been
> > better off if the JSP process weren't as open.  The more
> open the process,
> > the slower you are to deliver.
> >
> I disagree with you here.  I've been through design processes
> that involved
> many, many participants.  What makes the process    slow is
> having nobody in
> charge of the process that's willing to drive the process
> along.  Without
> having someone willing or able to gather everyone's input and
> make a final
> decision what happens is that the design participants are
> forced to make
> decisions by concensus, something that's nearly impossible and takes a
> REALLY long time to make any decision at all.
> Anyway, I think it's possible to have a design process that's
> totally open
> and still speedy. Making it closed only limits the number of
> minds that can
> contribute ideas.
>
> ted stockwell
>
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