How much is all this JSP related ?
This discussion comes back every month.
I don't mind if eventually someone asks a question, that seems off-topic to
many others. What happens the most often is that so on the list sends him a
response apart, and explains him that he asked his question at the wrong
place. If this occurs too often, the guy should be banned from the list, of
course.
But what *really* pisses me off is to see every month a 50 replies thread
about off topic questions, and how its poster should burn in hell, etc....
I also think YOU should be banned, because what you're doing right now is
spam, and pollution of the list
So let's get back to work
At 10:15 15/01/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Yeah, that's a good point. However, the intentions are ideal for something
>that is so cyclic and public. In time there's going to be a new batch of
>people who are going to argue about the same things. To enforce the true
>intentions a solution needs to be initiated, say by the administrator, to
>perhaps designate a monitor who will decide what questions should be
>posted... You're limited to what you can do for something that's open and
>public. What I do is only look at the subjects and if they don't seem to
>even remotely apply I don't read it. I guess if you ignore enough messages
>and only respond to a very small percentage of what you normally do then the
>people with non-relevant questions will probably get the hint and go
>elsewhere. You might also loose a couple people who have relevant questions
>but at least they'll keep searching for an answer on their own effort. Just
>trying to think of ways to help...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Panos Konstantinidis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 8:43 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Stop posting off-topic questions
>
>
>Ok, let me guess then, I should be happy because only the 50% of the e-mails
>I am receiving are non-JSP related. And I should have been unhappy if I were
>receiving 100% non-JSP related e-mails from a JSP-related list!!!!????? You
>are looding the point here. If I were to receive non-JSP e-mails I would
>like to subscribe to a non-JSP mailing list. It is simple logic for some
>people out there who do not understand. If I have Tomcat problems I will
>subscribe to a Tomcat mailing list. If my main concern is WML I will
>subscribe to a WML list, if my main concern is to find a Job I will buy a
>newspaper or look at the proper web site. If I want to speak
>Spanish/Greek/Chinese/(put your own language here) I will log on to an IRC
>channel and I can do it. I am interested in JSP technology that's why I have
>subscribed here.
> I do not say no to questions that are close to JSP technology but there
>are some completely irrelevant questions out there (for example: what is the
>query in order to get all the results from a table in a database!!!!!!!!!).
> The thing is that the list has become what it is because people, from the
>beginning, were more "elastic" than they should have been.
> Can you not understand that bright people and people who can help are
>getting frustrated and leaving the list? My colleague (who personalyl I
>believe is one of the best JSP programmers I have ever met) left the list
>for this exactly reason!
> With what you are doing you are not helping the list to become better. It
>is getting worse and worse and, eventually, will loose its original pure-JSP
>interest.
>
>
> >From: Willard Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
> > reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Stop posting off-topic questions
> >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 08:10:51 -0500
> >
> >Hey buff, take it easy. I agree with you, ultimately, but how much can you
> >expect unless you get your own private forum or something of that nature.
> >As you can see this is always going to happen whether you or anyone else
> >bitch's about it or not. Learn to live with it and just ignore half of the
> >messages you get if it gets you worked up. We ought to be very thankful
> >because it could be worse. I would imagine that if the admistrator of this
> >forum was very concerned with this then he/she would have an id
> >authentification or some kind of security in effect.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Panos Konstantinidis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 5:55 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Stop posting off-topic questions
> >
> >
> > No, I do not want to answer this question HERE. This is a JSP list and
> >not
> >a Java Class path/ Tomcat/ Java/ RMI/ WebSphere Configuration/ Jokes/ Jobs
> >Finding/ Foreign language (in ten simple lessons)/ Acquaintances found/
> >(put
> >your own here) list. And yes, I would love to answer his question IF IT WAS
> >POSTED ON A PROPER MAILING LIST.
> > What is the matter with all of you people. You are acting childish and
> >anti-professional by posting all these off-topic questions. Do you think I
> >(you/we) have the time to go through all these irrelevant questions every
> >morning? This list is ONLY for JSP-related matters and nothing else. If you
> >want help with something, then go and register with the relevant list(s).
> > This is happening because both parties allow this to happend. People who
> >are asking irrelevant questions and people who are answering irrelevant
> >questions. I do not want to read unrelated questions and answers. I
> >subscribed to this list because I thought it was only for people who are
> >involved with the JSP technology. Ok, it happened to have posted irrelevant
> >questions in the past, but I understood I was wrong and now I am trying to
> >make people to respect each other by replying to them individually (and not
> >through the list) but I have noticed that most of them are so stubborn they
> >would not even consider thinking about that.
> > This list is named JSP-INTEREST and not ANY-INTEREST. Take it into
> >account
> >next time you want to post an off-topic question.
> >
> > Panos
> >
> >
> > >From: Mahesh Gangarapu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: Mahesh Gangarapu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: how to handel session time out
> > >Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:57:52 +0530
> > >
> > >If you want to Answer answer the question ...
> > >For you Information this question is about Servlet configuration
> > >........??? Any questions about that
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Panos Konstantinidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 4:19 PM
> > >Subject: Re: how to handel session time out
> > >
> > >
> > > > THIS IS A BLOODY JSP LIST NOT AN ASP.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Srinivas K. R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
> > > > > reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >Subject: how to handel session time out
> > > > >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:53:48 +0530
> > > > >
> > > > >Hi
> > > > >
> > > > >I have two application one in ASP which is running on IIS and the
> > >other
> > >is
> > > > >in servlet is running on Apache with Jser on same NT machine.
> > > > >My servlet Application is Invoked thru the ASP application. The
> >Session
> > > > >time
> > > > >out for ASP application is 30 min and for the Servlet application is
> >30
> > > > >min.
> > > > >When i come back to ASP application after working on servlet
> > >application
> > > > >for more than 30 min it gives me session time out.
> > > > >I should some have have a common session time for both of them. Has
> >any
> > >of
> > > > >you have solution for my problem.
> > > > >
> > > > >Is there any way of specifying a common session time out for both the
> > > > >application.
> > > > >
> > > > >Regards
> > > > >Srinivas
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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