I agree with Joseph. When I ask a question, I ask the appropriate forum.  I
belong to a JavaScript mailing list, and that is where I ask my JavaScript
questions. When I have a ColFusion question, I go to the Allaire website to
post my question. I think he displays his anger because other people are
unwilling to work to find the appropriate forum. People ask off topic
questions on this list because it's easy. As a result, our mailboxes get
filled with junk, and one (like myself) who subscribes just for "JSP help"
finds this annoying. And furthermore, if one asks the appropriate forum,
they are more likely to get a correct answer. The fact that Joseph comes off
like an asshole is irrelevant.





-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sequence Problem


Heh, this sounds like someone else's response to me a while back: "If you're
so smart, why are you here?"

I didn't point out the obvious, that the person who said that was basically
saying, "This list is for morons only."

I disagree; this list is for people interested in JSP, thus "JSP-Interest."
As one who's interested in JSP, I'm on the list. Easy to work out, don't you
think?

As far as why I stay on the list despite so many offtopic or misinformed
questions... well, what can I say? Hope springs eternal.

>From: Beth Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
>     reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Sequence Problem
>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:34:24 -0400
>
>If you have all the answers to the "to stupid to tolerate" questions, why
>are even bothering to subscribe to this list.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joseph Ottinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:25 AM
>Subject: Re: Sequence Problem
>
>
> > I'm here; I'm still active; I'm busy laughing at the people who seem to
>be
> > happy with useless mailing lists, clogged with offtopic posts that
>nobody
> > else seems to mind. I don't mind flames; I don't mind endless flames; I
>do
> > mind wasting my time on people who don't want to pursue excellence.
> >
> > I've been considering looking into a mailing list that's a bit more
> > exclusive, meaning "actually focused on JSP." I'm sure most JSP-I
>members
> > would find such an attitude elitist and offensive... how dare I expect
>to
> > actually focus on JSP issues! To them: oh, well. When such a list is set
>up,
> > I'll be moving there; answering moronic questions that the specs and
> > experience show the answers to isn't exactly my cup of tea. I find this
>list
> > depressing, most of the time. JSP is a very nice technology, with actual
> > issues of its own; I don't see why people are here talking about JDBC
> > drivers, or JSP-level user authentication, or "how do I declare a
>variable?"
> > I'm now at the point of answering things that I think are too stupid to
> > tolerate just to verify that accurate answers are in the archives, and
>maybe
> > to show people a little bit about how to think orthogonally instead of
> > chunking everything into one level.
> >
> > That's a lost cause, I know - the death of IT isn't VB, it's the people
>who
> > think VB is the death of IT. Nobody bothers to investigate how to do
>things,
> > or why to do things; it's all "let's focus ONLY on the problem at hand,
>to
> > the point where there ARE no other problems..." when a little bit of
> > perspective leads to the solution to the problem at hand.
> >
> >
> > >From: Andrea Vicentini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
> > >     reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: Sequence Problem
> > >Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 06:45:27 -0800
> > >
> > >It's a problem that some JDBC/ODBC drivers have -- you
> > >have to live with it, simply pull all the values from
> > >the ResultSet after the select.
> > >
> > >
> > >anyway
> > >
> > >
> > >WHAT THE HELL THESE *!#$@& DB-RELATED QUESTIONS HAVE
> > >TO SHARE ON A JSP (I repeat it: JSP!) MAILING LIST?
> > >
> > >(Joseph Ottinger, where are you :-) ?
> > >
> > >Senior Software Engineer
> > >Andrea Vicentini
> > >www.abaXX.de
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "sandarbh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:20 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Sequence Problem
> > >
> > >
> > > > if we use column index it does not give a problem
> > >but then same should apply
> > > > for field index. why not??
> > > >
> > > > sandarbh
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Peter Pilgrim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:03 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Sequence Problem
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Why don't you use the column index
> > > > >
> > > > > rst.getString(1);
> > > > > rst.getString(2);
> > > > > rst.getString(3);
> > > > >
> > > > > then it doesn't matter how you permutate ....
> > > > >
> > > > > rst.getString(3);
> > > > > rst.getString(1);
> > > > > rst.getString(2);
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Peter Pilgrim
> > > > > G.O.A.T
> > > > >                     "the Greatest Of All Time"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------------------------------------- Message
> > > > History ----------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Muhammad Asim Ajmal
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@java.sun.com> on
> > > > 21/02/2001 17:33 ZE5
> > > > > --<CUT>--
> > > > >
> > > > > hi!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > i want to know some thing about sequence problem
> > >for getting result from a
> > > > > query,
> > > > >
> > > > > e.g. select a, b, c, from table;
> > > > >
> > > > > then !!
> > > > > rst.getString("a");
> > > > > rst.getString("b");
> > > > > rst.getString("c");
> > > > >
> > > > > well this works fine,, but if i change the
> > >sequence like
> > > > >
> > > > > rst.getString("b");
> > > > > rst.getString("a");
> > > > > rst.getString("c");
> > > > >
> > > > > this create the problem,,, i wanna over come this
> > >problem,,,  has API3 of
> > > > > JDBC can
> > > > > give the solution???
> > > > >
> > > > > currnetly i m using SQL Server database and JDBC
> > >type 2 drivers...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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