Hi Sio,
I'm not an expert here, but just want to share my thoughts since I've been
using Apache for quite a long time now before JSPs and servlets came to be.
Well, Apache (just like any other web server software before) has been
designed to serve static pages although it can also run CGI scripts written
in Perl (the all-time favorite language by sys admins). By default, a web
server listens at port 80 for any HTTP request. And anything dynamic (like
user registration) is handled by all these CGI scripts.
Then, came these application servers like Tomcat, JRun, WebLogic, etc...
These Java app servers allow the developer to make use of the Java language
to also create web-based applications using a JSP/servlet/Bean combination,
although they can also be written in Perl. And by default, they use a
different HTTP port, since port 80 is assumed to be in use by a simple web
server. And yes, these Java app servers can be used as a standalone web
server too. But what I don't know if they support Perl scripts. This may be
the reason may people still want to use their time-tested web server -
Apache + Tomcat, or whatever combination just to support their applications
written in Perl. When integrated with a simple web server, all HTML
requests are handled by the webserver while all JSP and servlet request is
passed by the web server to the JSP/servlet engine.
Just my two cents... :-)
Lester
At 12:48 AM 7/4/01 -0700, you wrote:
>This is a topic that really confuses me.
>
>I use tomcat or jrun separatelly without even making use of Apache. I guess
>they both simulate a web server right??? Or wrong???
>
>I use Apache just to run my cgi scripts (perl for example). I do not know if
>tomcat or Jrun support cgi scripts, do they???
>
>I never integrated Apache with tomcat or jurun, and I wonder how I would do
>that, and why?
>
>Can some expert explain this architecture of webservers and app servers,
>their roles and etc etc etc...
>
>When people say "Apache" is simply a web server, I wonder what is the role
>of "a simply webserver".
>
>I do appreciate explanations on this
>
>Thanks
>Sio
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lester June Cabrera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 12:37 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Opensource app server with Servlet/JSP support
>
>
>Hi Sio,
>
>Yes, Apache does not support JSP/Servlet. It's just simply a web server,
>not an app server. And it's been around for so many years already
>(time-tested). So I guess some would just download an app server that
>supports JSP/servets and integrate it to Apache. And I read somewhere in
>the Tomcat docs that Tomcat is slow in serving static pages.
>
>Lester
>
>At 12:26 AM 7/4/01 -0700, you wrote:
> >I already use tomcat
> >
> >I was just wondering why people go for apache if it does not supports
> >servelts
> >
> >Sio
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Lester June Cabrera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 12:20 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Opensource app server with Servlet/JSP support
> >
> >
> >Hi Siomara,
> >
> >You may want to get Tomcat instead of JServ. Tomcat is quickly replacing
> >JServ for JSP/Servlet development. You can get it from
> >http://jakarta.apache.org
> >
> >I tried to install is successfully in my Win98 machine, but failed. But I
> >was able to able to install it in another NT machine as a standalone
> >web/app server, although you can integrate it with Apache and other popular
> >webserver.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Lester
> >
> >
> >At 12:03 AM 7/4/01 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Is JServ a separate module that supports servlets???
> > >
> > >Where can it be found? What about documentation on how to set it up? Is
> > >there any?
> > >
> > >Siomara
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Costas Simatos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 12:18 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: Opensource app server with Servlet/JSP support
> > >
> > >
> > >Just download (for free) the Apache JServ module. You may now use
>servlets,
> > >jsps and beans at will.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Abhijit Hiremagalur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: �������, 4 ������� 2001 2:37 ��
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Opensource app server with Servlet/JSP support
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi All,
> > >
> > >I am quite new to this game so please excuse any silly errors that I
> > >might make in the course of this message.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I am trying to teach myself how to use Servlets/JSPs and simultaneously
> > >get a working shopping cart/order form + registration system up for a
> > >friend. He has a linux server that currently does not do much other
> > >than run apache. Can anyone suggest any easy to configure/easy to use,
> > >stable and 'free' application server? Just to help me get started and
> > >looking in the right places.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >People I know tell me not to use tomcat with apache as this is not
> > >really meant for final deployment of JSPs more for testing and learning
> > >how to use JSPs and stuff?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >What's your take on Enhydra and JBoss?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks folks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Abhijit.
> > >
> >
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I-Quest Corporation
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