That's not the only difference. As I said, WebLogic is J2EE whereas Tomcat is a Servlet container. I'm well aware of what the implications are, and I use a number of application servers; I'd say Tomcat's suitable for testing and possibly deployment on sites with *little* traffic (not "a little traffic," sorry. :)
--------------------------------------------------- Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://adjacency.org IT Consultant >From: Panagiotis Konstantinidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Panagiotis Konstantinidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Joseph Ottinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Platform choice advice for deploying a website >Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 12:25:18 +0100 > > I think the only difference here is that Tomcat is a Servlet/JSP engine >while Weblogic is a Servlet/JSP engine *and* EJB container (in a few words >weblogic is a proper Application Server). Unfortunatelly while one of the >most popular >Servlet/JSP engines (Tomcat) comes for free, the most popular EJB >containers >cost money. The good news is that there are several out there that are for >free. If you want take a look here for a review of some of the EJB servers: >http://www.mgm-edv.de/ejbsig/ejbservers_tabled.html > > Tomcat is ideal as a standalone server for web sites with a little >traffic. For bigger web sites (up to 70k - 120k) it is advisable to run >Tomcat in conjuction with Apache. I have been using Tomcat with Apache for >the past two years and I had >no problems so far. > >24/10/2001 12:04:17, Joseph Ottinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Tomcat doesn't do what weblogic does. Weblogic is a J2EE container; > >Tomcat > >is a servlet container. J2EE is more than servlets. > > > >You might also consider Orion (www.orionserver.com) - it's also a J2EE > >container, runs much faster than WebLogic (although BEA won't allow > >anyone > >to publish benchmarks - I wonder why?) and has a price tag of $1500, > >compared to BEA's open pricing. > > > >--------------------------------------------------- > >Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://adjacency.org IT Consultant > > > > > > > >>From: Daniel Jaffa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and > >>reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: Re: Platform choice advice for deploying a website > >>Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:11:58 +0000 > >> > >>Getting a little off topic here: Can tomcat handle load of up to 70k - > >120k > >>hits an hour. Or would i have to go to a product like WebLogic. > >> > >>The reason i ask is that i have been building with weblogic and when it > >>comes time for the client to pay the bill they always gag at the price. > >>And > >>if TomCat + apache can fit the bill for free well then of TomCat i will > >go. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>----Original Message Follows---- > >>specification and reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >>This is actually a current topic of discussion on the > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. > >> > >>What I mentioned is more of a rule of thumb since I don't know of any > >>Tomcat+Apache benchmarks. You would need to look into your own business > >>needs and performance criteria. When you look at volume you don't just > >need > >>to look at the number of hits. You have to look at the information that > >you > >>are serving. What is it? Is it a set of static pages or a set of > >dynamic? > >>How many requests of that content do you really need to handle per > >second? > >> > >>As for security, Tomcat 4.0 has container-managed security that you can > >>install on a per webapp basis. Among other things, you also can setup > >>access > >>logging and ssi. > >> > >>Justy > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Haseltine, Celeste" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:52 PM > >>Subject: Re: Platform choice advice for deploying a website > >> > >> > >> > Justyna, > >> > > >> > This addresses an issue we have been discussing up here at work. Is > >the > >> > "rule of thumb" always "the number of static pages vs the number of > >>dynamic > >> > pages" in determining whether you need to run a JSP/Servlet server > >as a > >> > stand alone server, or in conjunction with an HTML server, such as > >>Apache > >>or > >> > IIS? What weight in the decision process do you give the "volume" > >or > >> > "number of hits" you expect your web site to generate in making your > >> > decision regarding servers? And where do security considerations > >play > >>into > >> > the decision making process regarding using a stand alone JSP server > >vs > >>an > >> > HTML and JSP server together (such as Apache + Tomcat), or do they > >play > >>in > >> > at all? > >> > > >> > My thanks in advance to anyone with additional advice on this topic. > >>Also, > >> > if anyone has any good references/sites that discuss this topic in > >>general, > >> > I would be interested in them. > >> > > >> > Celeste > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: horwat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:51 PM > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Subject: Re: Platform choice advice for deploying a website > >> > > >> > > >> > You can minimize your pain threshold by analyzing what type of > >server > >>you > >> > need. Is it going to be large volume with many static pages and a > >couple > >>of > >> > dynamic pages? Then you should use Apache + Tomcat. > >> > > >> > Now, if your server isn't going to be large volume or has mostly > >dynamic > >> > pages then you should really consider running Tomcat standalone. You > >>dynamic > >> > pages would not be relayed through Apache but be served directly by > >>Tomcat. > >> > It is much easier to configure Tomcat standalone than configure two > >>servers > >> > and the connector between them. > >> > > >> > As for documentation, I would look at the apache site for both > >products: > >> > > >> > http://www.apache.org > >> > http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat > >> > > >> > Justy > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Paul Idusogie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:06 PM > >> > Subject: Platform choice advice for deploying a website > >> > > >> > > >> > > Hello Folks: > >> > > > >> > > I need your advice on the best approach due to budgetry > >constraints. > >> > > I'm considering learning Linux to deploy my website using apache > >as my > >> > > web server and tomcat as the servlet container. Could any one > >provide > >> > > suggestions on books, linux version and the pain threshold. > >> > > > >> > > I can not afford Windows 2000 server software. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >> > >>======================================================================= > >==== > >>To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff > >>JSP-INTEREST". > >>For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set JSP-INTEREST > >>DIGEST". > >>Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: > >> > >>http://archives.java.sun.com/jsp-interest.html > >>http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html > >>http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.jsp > >>http://www.jguru.com/faq/index.jsp > >>http://www.jspinsider.com > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > >======================================================================== > >=== > >To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff > >JSP-INTEREST". > >For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set JSP-INTEREST > >DIGEST". > >Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: > > > > http://archives.java.sun.com/jsp-interest.html > > http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html > > http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.jsp > > http://www.jguru.com/faq/index.jsp > > http://www.jspinsider.com > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp =========================================================================== To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff JSP-INTEREST". 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