Take a look here: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-3.2-doc/tomcat-apache-howto.html It might help.
24/10/2001 16:44:47, "Haseltine, Celeste" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I too am trying to understand what parameters you should take into >consideration when looking at the JSP/Servlet container to use for a web >site, and whether you should use the JSP/servlet container in >conjunction >with Apache or IIS. One thing struck me in the dialog below, and it was >the >following sentence: > >> Tomcat is ideal as a standalone server for web sites with a little >>traffic. For bigger web sites (up to 70k - 120k) it is advisable to run >>Tomcat in conjuction with Apache. > >What does the combination of Tomcat+Apache give you that Tomcat as a >stand >alone server does not? > >Celeste > >-----Original Message----- >From: Joseph Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 7:15 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Platform choice advice for deploying a website > > >That's not the only difference. As I said, WebLogic is J2EE whereas >Tomcat >is a Servlet container. I'm well aware of what the implications are, and >I >use a number of application servers; I'd say Tomcat's suitable for >testing >and possibly deployment on sites with *little* traffic (not "a little >traffic," sorry. :) > >--------------------------------------------------- >Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://adjacency.org IT Consultant > > > >>From: Panagiotis Konstantinidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: Panagiotis Konstantinidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: Joseph Ottinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: Platform choice advice for deploying a website >>Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 12:25:18 +0100 >> >> I think the only difference here is that Tomcat is a Servlet/JSP >engine >>while Weblogic is a Servlet/JSP engine *and* EJB container (in a few >words >>weblogic is a proper Application Server). Unfortunatelly while one of >the >>most popular >>Servlet/JSP engines (Tomcat) comes for free, the most popular EJB >>containers >>cost money. The good news is that there are several out there that are >for >>free. If you want take a look here for a review of some of the EJB >servers: >>http://www.mgm-edv.de/ejbsig/ejbservers_tabled.html >> >> Tomcat is ideal as a standalone server for web sites with a little >>traffic. For bigger web sites (up to 70k - 120k) it is advisable to run >>Tomcat in conjuction with Apache. I have been using Tomcat with Apache >for >>the past two years and I had >>no problems so far. >> >>24/10/2001 12:04:17, Joseph Ottinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >Tomcat doesn't do what weblogic does. Weblogic is a J2EE container; >> >Tomcat >> >is a servlet container. J2EE is more than servlets. >> > >> >You might also consider Orion (www.orionserver.com) - it's also a >J2EE >> >container, runs much faster than WebLogic (although BEA won't allow >> >anyone >> >to publish benchmarks - I wonder why?) and has a price tag of $1500, >> >compared to BEA's open pricing. >> > >> >--------------------------------------------------- >> >Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >http://adjacency.org IT Consultant >> > >> > >> > >> >>From: Daniel Jaffa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and >> >>reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>Subject: Re: Platform choice advice for deploying a website >> >>Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:11:58 +0000 >> >> >> >>Getting a little off topic here: Can tomcat handle load of up to 70k >- >> >120k >> >>hits an hour. Or would i have to go to a product like WebLogic. >> >> >> >>The reason i ask is that i have been building with weblogic and when >it >> >>comes time for the client to pay the bill they always gag at the >price. >> >>And >> >>if TomCat + apache can fit the bill for free well then of TomCat i >will >> >go. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>----Original Message Follows---- >> >>specification and reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >>This is actually a current topic of discussion on the >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. >> >> >> >>What I mentioned is more of a rule of thumb since I don't know of >any >> >>Tomcat+Apache benchmarks. You would need to look into your own >business >> >>needs and performance criteria. When you look at volume you don't >just >> >need >> >>to look at the number of hits. You have to look at the information >that >> >you >> >>are serving. What is it? Is it a set of static pages or a set of >> >dynamic? >> >>How many requests of that content do you really need to handle per >> >second? >> >> >> >>As for security, Tomcat 4.0 has container-managed security that you >can >> >>install on a per webapp basis. Among other things, you also can >setup >> >>access >> >>logging and ssi. >> >> >> >>Justy >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >> >>From: "Haseltine, Celeste" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:52 PM >> >>Subject: Re: Platform choice advice for deploying a website >> >> >> >> >> >> > Justyna, >> >> > >> >> > This addresses an issue we have been discussing up here at work. >Is >> >the >> >> > "rule of thumb" always "the number of static pages vs the number >of >> >>dynamic >> >> > pages" in determining whether you need to run a JSP/Servlet >server >> >as a >> >> > stand alone server, or in conjunction with an HTML server, such >as >> >>Apache >> >>or >> >> > IIS? What weight in the decision process do you give the >"volume" >> >or >> >> > "number of hits" you expect your web site to generate in making >your >> >> > decision regarding servers? And where do security considerations >> >play >> >>into >> >> > the decision making process regarding using a stand alone JSP >server >> >vs >> >>an >> >> > HTML and JSP server together (such as Apache + Tomcat), or do >they >> >play >> >>in >> >> > at all? >> >> > >> >> > My thanks in advance to anyone with additional advice on this >topic. >> >>Also, >> >> > if anyone has any good references/sites that discuss this topic >in >> >>general, >> >> > I would be interested in them. >> >> > >> >> > Celeste >> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: horwat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:51 PM >> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > Subject: Re: Platform choice advice for deploying a website >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > You can minimize your pain threshold by analyzing what type of >> >server >> >>you >> >> > need. Is it going to be large volume with many static pages and a >> >couple >> >>of >> >> > dynamic pages? Then you should use Apache + Tomcat. >> >> > >> >> > Now, if your server isn't going to be large volume or has mostly >> >dynamic >> >> > pages then you should really consider running Tomcat standalone. >You >> >>dynamic >> >> > pages would not be relayed through Apache but be served directly >by >> >>Tomcat. >> >> > It is much easier to configure Tomcat standalone than configure >two >> >>servers >> >> > and the connector between them. >> >> > >> >> > As for documentation, I would look at the apache site for both >> >products: >> >> > >> >> > http://www.apache.org >> >> > http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat >> >> > >> >> > Justy >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "Paul Idusogie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:06 PM >> >> > Subject: Platform choice advice for deploying a website >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > Hello Folks: >> >> > > >> >> > > I need your advice on the best approach due to budgetry >> >constraints. >> >> > > I'm considering learning Linux to deploy my website using >apache >> >as my >> >> > > web server and tomcat as the servlet container. Could any one >> >provide >> >> > > suggestions on books, linux version and the pain threshold. >> >> > > >> >> > > I can not afford Windows 2000 server software. >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >> >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >> >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >> >> >> >>>====================================================================== >= >> >==== >> >>To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff >> >>JSP-INTEREST". >> >>For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set >JSP-INTEREST >> >>DIGEST". >> >>Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: >> >> >> >>http://archives.java.sun.com/jsp-interest.html >> >>http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html >> >>http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.jsp >> >>http://www.jguru.com/faq/index.jsp >> >>http://www.jspinsider.com >> > >> > >> >_________________________________________________________________ >> >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >> >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >> > >> >>======================================================================= >= >> >=== >> >To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff >> >JSP-INTEREST". >> >For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set JSP-INTEREST >> >DIGEST". >> >Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: >> > >> > http://archives.java.sun.com/jsp-interest.html >> > http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html >> > http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.jsp >> > http://www.jguru.com/faq/index.jsp >> > http://www.jspinsider.com >> > >> >> > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >======================================================================== >=== >To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff >JSP-INTEREST". >For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set JSP-INTEREST >DIGEST". >Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: > > http://archives.java.sun.com/jsp-interest.html > http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html > http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.jsp > http://www.jguru.com/faq/index.jsp > http://www.jspinsider.com > >======================================================================== >=== >To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff >JSP-INTEREST". >For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set JSP-INTEREST >DIGEST". >Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: > > http://archives.java.sun.com/jsp-interest.html > http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html > http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.jsp > http://www.jguru.com/faq/index.jsp > http://www.jspinsider.com > =========================================================================== To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff JSP-INTEREST". 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