Sorry I do not. I have never used IIS with Servlets/JSP. I always think of IIS and ASP working together not JSP/Servlets. Maybe if you post a message to an IIS related mailing list.
24/10/2001 17:05:09, "Haseltine, Celeste" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Thank you. The discussion under the Intro pretty much answered my >questions. Do you know if there is a similiar discussion on the merits >of >using IIS and other JSP/Servlet containers together somewhere else on >the >web? My intial search on this topic using google.com on Monday did not >bring up any useful web sites/articles. > >Thanks again! > >Celeste > >-----Original Message----- >From: Panagiotis Konstantinidis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:52 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Platform choice advice for deploying a website > > > Take a look here: >http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-3.2-doc/tomcat-apache-howto.html >It >might help. > >24/10/2001 16:44:47, "Haseltine, Celeste" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > >>I too am trying to understand what parameters you should take into >>consideration when looking at the JSP/Servlet container to use for a >web >>site, and whether you should use the JSP/servlet container in >>conjunction >>with Apache or IIS. One thing struck me in the dialog below, and it >was >>the >>following sentence: >> >>> Tomcat is ideal as a standalone server for web sites with a little >>>traffic. For bigger web sites (up to 70k - 120k) it is advisable to >run >>>Tomcat in conjuction with Apache. >> >>What does the combination of Tomcat+Apache give you that Tomcat as a >>stand >>alone server does not? >> >>Celeste >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Joseph Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 7:15 AM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: Platform choice advice for deploying a website >> >> >>That's not the only difference. As I said, WebLogic is J2EE whereas >>Tomcat >>is a Servlet container. I'm well aware of what the implications are, >and >>I >>use a number of application servers; I'd say Tomcat's suitable for >>testing >>and possibly deployment on sites with *little* traffic (not "a little >>traffic," sorry. :) >> >>--------------------------------------------------- >>Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>http://adjacency.org IT Consultant >> >> >> >>>From: Panagiotis Konstantinidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Reply-To: Panagiotis Konstantinidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: Joseph Ottinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Subject: Re: Platform choice advice for deploying a website >>>Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 12:25:18 +0100 >>> >>> I think the only difference here is that Tomcat is a Servlet/JSP >>engine >>>while Weblogic is a Servlet/JSP engine *and* EJB container (in a few >>words >>>weblogic is a proper Application Server). Unfortunatelly while one of >>the >>>most popular >>>Servlet/JSP engines (Tomcat) comes for free, the most popular EJB >>>containers >>>cost money. The good news is that there are several out there that are >>for >>>free. If you want take a look here for a review of some of the EJB >>servers: >>>http://www.mgm-edv.de/ejbsig/ejbservers_tabled.html >>> >>> Tomcat is ideal as a standalone server for web sites with a little >>>traffic. For bigger web sites (up to 70k - 120k) it is advisable to >run >>>Tomcat in conjuction with Apache. I have been using Tomcat with Apache >>for >>>the past two years and I had >>>no problems so far. >>> >>>24/10/2001 12:04:17, Joseph Ottinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >Tomcat doesn't do what weblogic does. Weblogic is a J2EE container; >>> >Tomcat >>> >is a servlet container. J2EE is more than servlets. >>> > >>> >You might also consider Orion (www.orionserver.com) - it's also a >>J2EE >>> >container, runs much faster than WebLogic (although BEA won't allow >>> >anyone >>> >to publish benchmarks - I wonder why?) and has a price tag of $1500, >>> >compared to BEA's open pricing. >>> > >>> >--------------------------------------------------- >>> >Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >http://adjacency.org IT Consultant >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>From: Daniel Jaffa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and >>> >>reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>Subject: Re: Platform choice advice for deploying a website >>> >>Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:11:58 +0000 >>> >> >>> >>Getting a little off topic here: Can tomcat handle load of up to >70k >>- >>> >120k >>> >>hits an hour. Or would i have to go to a product like WebLogic. >>> >> >>> >>The reason i ask is that i have been building with weblogic and >when >>it >>> >>comes time for the client to pay the bill they always gag at the >>price. >>> >>And >>> >>if TomCat + apache can fit the bill for free well then of TomCat i >>will >>> >go. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>----Original Message Follows---- >>> >>specification and reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >> >>> >>This is actually a current topic of discussion on the >>> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. >>> >> >>> >>What I mentioned is more of a rule of thumb since I don't know of >>any >>> >>Tomcat+Apache benchmarks. You would need to look into your own >>business >>> >>needs and performance criteria. When you look at volume you don't >>just >>> >need >>> >>to look at the number of hits. You have to look at the information >>that >>> >you >>> >>are serving. What is it? Is it a set of static pages or a set of >>> >dynamic? >>> >>How many requests of that content do you really need to handle per >>> >second? >>> >> >>> >>As for security, Tomcat 4.0 has container-managed security that you >>can >>> >>install on a per webapp basis. Among other things, you also can >>setup >>> >>access >>> >>logging and ssi. >>> >> >>> >>Justy >>> >> >>> >>----- Original Message ----- >>> >>From: "Haseltine, Celeste" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:52 PM >>> >>Subject: Re: Platform choice advice for deploying a website >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > Justyna, >>> >> > >>> >> > This addresses an issue we have been discussing up here at work. >>Is >>> >the >>> >> > "rule of thumb" always "the number of static pages vs the number >>of >>> >>dynamic >>> >> > pages" in determining whether you need to run a JSP/Servlet >>server >>> >as a >>> >> > stand alone server, or in conjunction with an HTML server, such >>as >>> >>Apache >>> >>or >>> >> > IIS? What weight in the decision process do you give the >>"volume" >>> >or >>> >> > "number of hits" you expect your web site to generate in making >>your >>> >> > decision regarding servers? And where do security >considerations >>> >play >>> >>into >>> >> > the decision making process regarding using a stand alone JSP >>server >>> >vs >>> >>an >>> >> > HTML and JSP server together (such as Apache + Tomcat), or do >>they >>> >play >>> >>in >>> >> > at all? >>> >> > >>> >> > My thanks in advance to anyone with additional advice on this >>topic. >>> >>Also, >>> >> > if anyone has any good references/sites that discuss this topic >>in >>> >>general, >>> >> > I would be interested in them. >>> >> > >>> >> > Celeste >>> >> > >>> >> > -----Original Message----- >>> >> > From: horwat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:51 PM >>> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> > Subject: Re: Platform choice advice for deploying a website >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > You can minimize your pain threshold by analyzing what type of >>> >server >>> >>you >>> >> > need. Is it going to be large volume with many static pages and >a >>> >couple >>> >>of >>> >> > dynamic pages? Then you should use Apache + Tomcat. >>> >> > >>> >> > Now, if your server isn't going to be large volume or has mostly >>> >dynamic >>> >> > pages then you should really consider running Tomcat standalone. >>You >>> >>dynamic >>> >> > pages would not be relayed through Apache but be served directly >>by >>> >>Tomcat. >>> >> > It is much easier to configure Tomcat standalone than configure >>two >>> >>servers >>> >> > and the connector between them. >>> >> > >>> >> > As for documentation, I would look at the apache site for both >>> >products: >>> >> > >>> >> > http://www.apache.org >>> >> > http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat >>> >> > >>> >> > Justy >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> > From: "Paul Idusogie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:06 PM >>> >> > Subject: Platform choice advice for deploying a website >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > > Hello Folks: >>> >> > > >>> >> > > I need your advice on the best approach due to budgetry >>> >constraints. >>> >> > > I'm considering learning Linux to deploy my website using >>apache >>> >as my >>> >> > > web server and tomcat as the servlet container. Could any one >>> >provide >>> >> > > suggestions on books, linux version and the pain threshold. >>> >> > > >>> >> > > I can not afford Windows 2000 server software. >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>> >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >>> >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >>> >> >>> >>>>===================================================================== >= >>= >>> >==== >>> >>To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff >>> >>JSP-INTEREST". >>> >>For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set >>JSP-INTEREST >>> >>DIGEST". >>> >>Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: >>> >> >>> >>http://archives.java.sun.com/jsp-interest.html >>> >>http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html >>> >>http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.jsp >>> >>http://www.jguru.com/faq/index.jsp >>> >>http://www.jspinsider.com >>> > >>> > >>> >_________________________________________________________________ >>> >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >>> >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >>> > >>> >>>====================================================================== >= >>= >>> >=== >>> >To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff >>> >JSP-INTEREST". >>> >For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set >JSP-INTEREST >>> >DIGEST". >>> >Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: >>> > >>> > http://archives.java.sun.com/jsp-interest.html >>> > http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html >>> > http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.jsp >>> > http://www.jguru.com/faq/index.jsp >>> > http://www.jspinsider.com >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >>http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >> >>======================================================================= >= >>=== >>To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff >>JSP-INTEREST". >>For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set JSP-INTEREST >>DIGEST". >>Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: >> >> http://archives.java.sun.com/jsp-interest.html >> http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html >> http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.jsp >> http://www.jguru.com/faq/index.jsp >> http://www.jspinsider.com >> >>======================================================================= >= >>=== >>To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff >>JSP-INTEREST". >>For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set JSP-INTEREST >>DIGEST". >>Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: >> >> http://archives.java.sun.com/jsp-interest.html >> http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html >> http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.jsp >> http://www.jguru.com/faq/index.jsp >> http://www.jspinsider.com >> > >======================================================================== >=== >To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff >JSP-INTEREST". >For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set JSP-INTEREST >DIGEST". >Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: > > http://archives.java.sun.com/jsp-interest.html > http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html > http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.jsp > http://www.jguru.com/faq/index.jsp > http://www.jspinsider.com > >======================================================================== >=== >To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff >JSP-INTEREST". >For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set JSP-INTEREST >DIGEST". >Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: > > http://archives.java.sun.com/jsp-interest.html > http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html > http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.jsp > http://www.jguru.com/faq/index.jsp > http://www.jspinsider.com > =========================================================================== To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff JSP-INTEREST". 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