Basically a good idea, but it does not look like any of the addresses
collected by Christoph are in any of the AHBL's block lists (just a
random sampling though, didn't go through them all).  From my own
list, I tried five and got only one positive response.  None of them
were Tor nodes; I think they mostly are from zombie machines.

However, it's been estimated that the bigger botnets only control
maybe 20,000 computers.  So it might be possible to automatically
gather a list of known wikispam addresses (and be subjected to a large
number of DOS attempts after that :-).

We would, in any case, need to develop the SpamFilter a bit more so
that it could return multiple responses and trigger either a direct
rejection or captcha.  Not that it would be that difficult, I'm kinda
working on it already.

/Janne

On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 11:12:27AM +0100, Fabian Haupt wrote:
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> I quickly looked over those addresses. Just dialup ranges. Maybe we
> could use something like the abusive hosts blocking list[1] to identify
> the evil ones?
> 
> [1] http://www.ahbl.org/
> 
> Christoph Sauer wrote:
> > No, not the same subnet. Here's a list I collected...
> > 
> >     <Valve className="org.apache.catalina.valves.RemoteAddrValve"
> >           allow="" deny="60.10.6.170, 60.32.219.68, 60.190.243.173,
> > 60.190.240.76, i61.57.40.31, 66.46.148.201, 74.231.24.2, 80.71.135.2,
> > i81.201.58.55, 83.236.135.140, 87.3.58.149, 122.214.180.254, 122.252.226.40,
> > 161.200.255.162, 200.226.134.53, 201.12.178.33, 202.70.201.34,
> > 203.69.39.251, 207.248.164, 207.248.164.199, 210.17.247.39, 210.73.88.144,
> > 216.32.162.164, 211.7.138.14, 217.149.193.70, 218.58.136.4, 222.221.6.144,
> > 222.190.96.196"/>
> > 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Fabian Haupt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Januar 2008 10:28
> > An: [email protected]
> > Betreff: Re: The guy's back...
> > 
> > Just a thought, but maybe he's using something like TOR? Are the IP
> > addresses completely unrelated or more or less in the same subnet? If he
> >  just redialed his line, i figure they would.
> > 
> > A thing we thought of as possibility to defend those, would be to allow
> > tor-edits just through some captchas. So we wouldn't have to shut out
> > tor-users completely, but had some control over spammers (assumed he
> > really is using tor).
> > 
> > But that's just something we came up for the wikipedia-vs-tor problem.
> > 
> > Greets
> > Fabian
> > 
> > Janne Jalkanen wrote:
> >>> Not sure if that's any help, but there'd be no counter to it unless
> >>> the jerk was willing to edit a single page every ten minutes or so in
> >>> some fashion that we couldn't identify as sub-human.
> >> Spambots already do this.  Here are the modification dates from the last
> >> ten attempts by this guy. Each and everyone from a different IP address.
> > 
> >> 2008-01-02 08:56:27
> >> 2008-01-02 13:36:48
> >> 2008-01-02 14:20:05
> >> 2008-01-02 15:46:48
> >> 2008-01-02 15:47:45
> >> 2008-01-02 23:54:31
> >> 2008-01-03 00:18:08
> >> 2008-01-03 00:37:03
> >> 2008-01-03 01:47:51
> >> 2008-01-03 06:49:43
> > 
> >> /Janne
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