Dear Janne and core JSPWiki committers,

What is the sustainable structure where YOU would still have the energy to be involved ?
What would be the goal YOU would pursue?

Most of us have their own agenda: the weight of managing a community is bearable only if enough agendas have many things in common...

For me, 2.8.4 is a nice base: I modify it for CK support and integration with terminology management and other "details" (example: http://www.destin-informatique.com/ASKOSI/Wiki.jsp?page=jita_THIN )

Your leadership is essential: please do what you can bear.
What would be nice is to make a "gallery" of our best "forks" to eventually decide what we put in common in the future.

Good night!

Christophe

Le 2/01/2012 22:50, Janne Jalkanen a écrit :
Folks,

it seems that we haven't been able to produce an Apache-ready version of 
JSPWiki for over three (four?) years now. 3.0 was obviously too complex to 
deliver, and it's still badly broken. It would need a lot of work to refactor 
into a state where it would actually be usable, and I don't know whether anyone 
has the time to do it.  So far it seems that we're not getting a whole lot of 
new contributors.

So what I'm proposing is fairly radical: let's forget about Apache and move 
over to GitHub. GitHub's contribution model is simpler (pull requests are 
easier to create and handle than patches on JIRA tickets), and we don't have to 
worry about preparing governance reports and that sort of stuff.

The point of Apache Incubation is to incubate a community of people who can 
create good software. So far our community seems to be dwindling more than 
increasing (and I accept the blame for that - I just haven't had the time nor 
the interest to put into this project). So I don't think it's wrong to say that 
our incubation has essentially failed, and that we should consider some other 
avenue, and go away from messing up the Apache Incubator.

Of course, now is the time for people to step up and say that "yes, I am willing to 
take charge and turn JSPWiki into a good Apache Top Level project." :-D I would 
welcome such people, but I know I don't have it in me anymore.

/Janne


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