I meant so that JSR-277 would get into JDK 7 regardless of the decisions we make around interoperability. What I would like from Stanley is a list of things that the expert group needs to do and dates by when they need to be done to ensure that whatever choices are made actually make it into JSR-277. There has been some question in the community as to whether or not JSR-277 would even make it into JDK 7 based on the public schedule of the project.

Sorry about the confusion,
Sam

On Apr 3, 2008, at 3:28 AM, Andy Piper wrote:

Yes, my sentiments exactly. I wouldn't want a focus on a *breadth* of
systems to end up meaning that (a) nothing is done well or (b) this
slips out of Java 7.

As always OSGi is the most important to us and, I suspect, to the
majority also.
Its also the only one with an associated approved JCP standard, so it
would be interesting to know what platform specific issues have been
encountered.

andy

At 11:10 03/04/2008, Daniel Leuck wrote:
Hi Sam,

My two cents: It seems like OSGi and Maven would be enough.  I don't
think any other non-IDE system is widely used. I assume Sun will have
NetBeans working with JSR-277 modules in short order.  I don't think
its important to spend a lot of time making JSR-277 interoperate with
a lot of other systems.  It should be the other way around.

Dan

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Sam Pullara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Can you send out what our roadmap might look like so that we can understand
what needs to be done to get this into JDK 7?

Sam



On Apr 2, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Stanley M. Ho wrote:

Hi experts,

As we discussed in the EG, we would like to make JSR 277 interoperable
with other module systems (e.g. OSGi, NetBeans, etc.). We have
been building
prototypings to figure out how it should work and to also validate the
overall approach. Since there are many module systems out there
and they are
all implemented very differently (there are also multiple OSGi
implementations), it requires us to build more than a few
prototypes and the
whole process takes time.

The good news is that we now have a prototype that allows JSR 277 modules
to interoperate with OSGi bundles in certain degrees, and another prototype that enables interoperation with Maven. I'm in the process of sorting out the details with the development team so we could have a strawman for this
EG to discuss soon.

- Stanley





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