Sorry Mr. Zeidner, informal developer-related commentary is indeed inappropriate content for a USERS GROUP. In fact, I have seen on this list that at certain JUG meetings, discussion on non-Java technologies have been discussed. Everyone needs to get back to working on corporate project #101 immediately. And make sure it's written in Java(tm).

I'll go back to lurking again.

Art




On Sep 21, 2006, at 10:36 AM, josh zeidner wrote:



  I guess its some kind of coincidence that I am
noticing a high degree of informal commentary on UG
lists lately.  You do realize that this kind of thing
reflects badly on customer and employer appeal?

  For instance, I could say some kind of offhand
comment like "they'll give a greencard to just about
any slob who scraped up enough money to bribe the
DOL!".  Obviously, some may be deeply offended by such
a statement.

  Although it is certainly the prerogative of a group
to govern themselves the way they see fit, in the case
of a JUG, there is the issue of the exploitation of
the legitimacy that the JUG term provides.  I'm
wondering if there are any regulations that deal with
this issue in the JCP or whether the JUG term is an
entirely public-domain all-purpose term that can be
utilized by any party.  I would assume that if there
are no such regulations then either 1) JUGs will
likely degrade in relevance( a process already in
effect ), 2) such regulations will be imposed in the
future.  The problems of such exploitation extend to
all members of a local area.

  Thanks,

    Josh Zeidner


--- Nick Lesiecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

To Tim and Jon:

I nearly fell out of my freaking chair at "White and
Nerdy".

To the rest of you:
If you haven't seen it, it's a must see.

Back to Tim:

Even Google hasn't solved the problem of how to
migrate all of your
friends and relatives from your old address.
Besides, this way I can
spy on their new UI!

FWIW: I couldn't survive without GMail for my work
account. Only
Gmail can handle the volume of internal mail I get.

Back to the group:

Oh, and anyone who's in the area for Hackday's
welcome to come and
visit the 'plex. Dunno what Yahoo has planned for
HackDay, but I
guarantee our cafe food is better on the average
Tuesday than it is
at Yahoo's special event.

That's right. I went there.

Nick


On Sep 19, 2006, at 2:03 PM, Tim Colson ((tcolson))
wrote:

Lol... am I the only one laughing that Nick sent
this from his
yahoo.com
email?

Hojillion -- "number of hos you can fit in your
car" ... hmm, in my
two-seater that'd only be one and she'd have to
sit on the wife's
lap...which would most likely end badly. <grin>

It's too bad GOOG doesn't seem to have a remote
worker option... or

FYI... I'll be at the Yahoo Open Hack Day
(hackday.org) in the Bay
Area
next weekend. Anybody else going to be there?

Nick? Or are you too "white and nerdy"?


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7939447080926152362&q=white

+and+
nerdy

-Timo


-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Lesiecki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:23 AM
To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org
Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] OT: Fwd:
Potentially
interesting Seattle Times story

I think this is an appropriate time to mention
that Google
has an office in Phoenix, and if you want to be
part of a
team that wins a
hojillion* dollar award, you should send me your
resume. I've
already helped one of the Tucson JUG'ers find
employ at
Google, and I hope to shepherd a few more into
our "Island of
Snacks" in Tempe.

Cheers,

Nick

* Hojillion:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hojillion

P.S. This is my one chance for famous name
dropping: I was in a
meeting w/ Guido Van Rossum yesterday. WOot!

P.P.S. Despite the tone of this email, I am
serious. Send me your
resume.



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